Seward won't let shootings steal corner

  • Article by: JON TEVLIN , Star Tribune
  • Updated: January 9, 2010 - 10:29 PM

A neighborhood gathers around East African immigrants in grief.

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samiamJan. 10, 10 8:03 PM

Seward really is a unique, diverse neighborhood where everyone is welcome. Hopefully everyone can move forward in peace.

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violanorthJan. 10, 10 8:52 PM

Jon, thank you for this. The East African community is a hugely positive part of Seward, and the neighborhood's commitment to maintaining its diversity and giving people of all income levels a safe, friendly, and thriving place to live was a major reason I chose to move here two years ago. You do us a great service by writing such a thoughtful column. We're all hoping that some good can come of this awful crime.

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mbmcgowanJan. 10, 10 8:56 PM

The theft occured years ago.

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jhill4mplsJan. 10, 10 9:45 PM

So sad that this happened at all but even more sad that it happened in such a peaceful neighborhood. Seward is one of those rare gems where so many types of people and businesses live in harmony.

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qualtroughJan. 10, 10 9:59 PM

The USA is not the only country to experience increased crime from sectors of the Somali immigrant population. Here is an excerpt from an article about this phenomenon in the Times (London): "The most de-stabilising by-product of the large-scale Somali migration to Britain has been the propensity of a significant number of young Somali men to become involved in crime and to use violence. It is not the done thing for senior police officers to discuss such trends bluntly — the racial overtones are too sensitive — but on the front line the reality has been inescapable." Similar news can be found from Australia and other countries with significant populations of Somali immigrants. I am not against immigration, but we should really be a little more selective about who is and isn't allowed to settle here. Americans of any color or persuasion should not be the victims of social experiments.

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civilsotaJan. 10, 1010:14 PM

"I am not against immigration, but we should really be a little more selective about who is and isn't allowed to settle here." In other words, "we" (which is who, anyway?; speak for yourself) should only allow people who walk, talk, and act like you to move in next door to you. I get what you're trying to say, but you are accusing Somalis of being innately and/or immutably violent, which is a pretty outrageous generalization. Also, immigration and pluralism aren't a "social experiments" - they're the backbone of this country's founding. Thanks for illustrating how it works, Jon.

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qualtroughJan. 11, 10 6:40 AM

civilsota-Please don't put words in my mouth. By we, I mean the powers that be, those who enact and enforce our immigration laws. And no, I don't think that only those who walk, talk, and act like me should be allowed to move next door to me. If that was the case my wife would not be what in the USA would be termed a 'person of color' and I would not have lived in a foreign country for the past 18 years, surrounded by 'people of color'. What I do support is allowing those who have a high likelihood of not engaging in criminal behavior based on previous patterns and history. While immigration is the historic pattern in the USA, there is no need for it to be unregulated or poorly regulated. There are 6.7 billion people on earth, and a very high percentage of them would love to live here. There is therefore no reason why we shouldn't set the bar high for those allowed to live here.

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civilsotaJan. 11, 1010:22 AM

I think you're setting up a straw man argument. Obviously many people would like to live in the U.S. and obviously "there is no need for it to be unregulated". No one is arguing otherwise. But the "reality" of the situation, as you refer to it, is not that Somalis are inherently violent immigrants. Thousands of them live and work next to all of us in peace (not only in Seward), and it seems like your comment - particularly on this column - is meant to suggest otherwise. There can be a discussion about immigration reform, but not when its based on broad and questionable generalizations about particular immigrant groups.

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repbugsprayJan. 11, 1010:57 AM

any comments that are not to your liking in support of the violence here you delete what happened to open dialogue on this site how many others have you deleted

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TommisJan. 11, 1011:27 AM

I don't think the ethnic status of the 17 year olds was announced yet, was it? So far, all we know is that the VICTIMS wre Somali.

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