NTSB: Pilots who overshot Twin Cities were on wrong frequency

  • Article by: SUZANNE ZIEGLER and PAUL WALSH , Star Tribune s taff w riters
  • Updated: December 16, 2009 - 10:08 PM

Fifteen minutes after Northwest Airlines Flight 188 was supposed to land in the Twin Cities on Oct. 21, flight attendant Barbara Logan glanced at her watch and decided to call the cockpit.

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jbolio88Dec. 16, 09 9:28 AM

If that's what really happened, then this would be happening more than... just once ever.

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nic0macDec. 16, 09 9:36 AM

Radio hand off errors do happen they just are normally corrected before the end of the flight, this was a combination of errors that was unfortinate but was less dangerous then other problems that occure, like say the close call in denver a short time back.

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hoggin1977Dec. 16, 09 9:46 AM

nic0mac nailed it. If you fly enough, you're going to be on the wrong freq once or twice.

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beetlejuiceDec. 16, 09 9:47 AM

GUILTY!

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notmetooDec. 16, 09 9:50 AM

Dude....how do you operate this squawk-box thingy again??

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gjohnson_92Dec. 16, 09 9:53 AM

It doesn't matter. These two should never fly again. The stakes are too high to allow this kind of lapse, even though this time it ended OK...I'm sure there are plenty of unemployed pilots right now that have never overflown their destination that can step in for these two.

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crazy4hawgsDec. 16, 09 9:53 AM

For the person that suggested that they don't speak English in Winnipeg...yes they do. But, they also speak French when necessary.

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thehoffersDec. 16, 0910:00 AM

For two commercial pilots to be oblivious to the fact that they were out of communication and effectively off course speaks to their trustworthiness. In what way should a paying passenger interpret this as even remotely permissable? Unaware of the crucial job requiring CONSTANT attention = Unqualified to fly tons of people and cargo over my house.

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snarfleberryDec. 16, 0910:03 AM

Remember, when you consider this incident, the three words in the title. The conduct of these two pilots was careless and reckless on so many levels that it strains credulity to even contemplate what they've done. First of all, whether the radio is working or not, your first responsibility is to FLY THE DAMN AIRPLANE. They didn't. They let the airplane fly them and ended up cruising past their destination. Secondly, they were using laptops in the cockpit to look at crew scheduling issues? Against company policy? Your first responsibility is to FLY THE DAMN AIRPLANE. And they didn't. They let it fly them. Thirdly, the ONLY place you ever go 77 minutes without having a radio conversation is over the ocean. They weren't. It should have set off mental alarm bells. It didn't. Careless. I have no sympathy for these two wretches and even less for their defenders. They should NEVER fly again.

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gwbuddyDec. 16, 0910:06 AM

the Minneapolis/St. Paul airport. The NTSB will probably say that they were "rookie" pilots on their FIRST flight to that airport and simply got lost or something. Whatever you say investigators. The person "in charge" of the navigation must PAY ATTENTION to their current location. Why didn't the person "in charge" immediately realize that the aircraft was "not making radio contact" and change over to the correct radio frequency? Another lame excuse for the NWA pilots inexcusable flight error: Flying 100+ miles past the airport.

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