Two Minnesota gang databases draw fire

  • Article by: ABBY SIMONS , Star Tribune
  • Updated: December 2, 2009 - 9:25 PM

In fallout from the demise of the Metro Gang Strike Force, a report takes issue with lists of gang members and suspects.

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rlvandyDec. 2, 09 8:33 PM

..a gansta and talk like a gansta... you're a gansta!! Guilty by association-TOO BAD!!

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brewsterhahaDec. 2, 09 8:50 PM

Levy-Pounds responded by asking, “If poverty is the issue, why not expand some of the resources we used to establish GangNet and maintain it to tackle some of the poverty issues?”

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brewsterhahaDec. 2, 09 8:53 PM

This "Newspaper" that is $1billion in the red and has never heard of the First Amendment is actually paying someone to moiniter these comments at 8:53 PM on a Wed night? Go figure....

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webfootDec. 2, 09 9:15 PM

and if they don't deal with it NOW, they're going to regret it. They're nothing but a bunch of thug criminals and are too far gone in the gang culture to deal with other than to lock 'em up and throw away the key.

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inrealityDec. 2, 09 9:21 PM

criticizing the mere gathering of minimal information to help protect the public have no clue what it really takes to keep everyone safe & secure. I will be the first to say we need strict controls on our government, we need to watch government like a hawk over a field and we need to limit it as much as we can.....but, we also need to give the legitimate parts of government the tools & resources to do their functions appropriately. I wish the people that harp on things like this would spend half as much energy fighting tax increases, the growth of government and out of control spending in all the non-legitimate things government does. As the story points out, there are criteria for getting into these databases and we can debate on whether the criteria is enough or not but the fact remains that the Twin Cities has a huge gang problem that isn't reported on very well. The gangs also coincide with the welfare triangle which is St. Louis to Twin Cities to Chicago/Milwaukee area. I think the reason most people don't think we have a big gang problem is because the local media doesn't report on it. Often times there are crimes & murders with gang ties but you never hear of it. Poor journalism or on purpose? I'm not sure. In any event, the average "Joe" doesn't end up in these criminal databases and even if someone isn't in a gang they may associate with gang members and have a critical part to play in an investigation. I do think that there needs to be better oversight in all task forces and would suggest a civilian person be appointed to help audit the unit and report directly to the Chief of Police, Sheriff or other person that is in charge of the unit. The law enforcement entity can still run the operations but the civilian person would help make sure things are kept on the up & up. I'm not sure why something like this hasn't been done before. It just seems like in these kinds of situations you want some outside entity keeping tabs on this because these task units are often comprised of multiple agencies and policing your own becomes a little more difficult.

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rshursonDec. 2, 09 9:52 PM

Need to be wiped out, without regard to color, race, creed or lot in life. They are a pox on society, and serve no good purpose. However we do it, get 'em gone.

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jbpaperDec. 2, 0910:55 PM

Instead of having some bleeding heart liberal deciding what criteria should be met before someone is on the database,let's let those that have been victims of gang violence decide. After all, they are the ONLY victims here.

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chrisdahlinDec. 2, 0911:29 PM

there is great value with some of it's content. Like it or not, everyone is in many databases for one reason or another. This one is specifically used for preventing needless death! How about this? Quit breaking the law and your database record will not matter; get caught dealing crack and we're making logical connections. Don't scrap what has actual value. Don't convict anyone based solely on the database.

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swhansberryDec. 2, 0911:59 PM

High up in their ivory towers, they don't see the crime on the street.

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petrufkaDec. 3, 0912:05 AM

There is good research put out by Department of Corrections in a book about gangs and what can be done about it. Thsi book tracks research doen by the US Dept of COrrection on what works best to combat gangs and deter kids from getting into gangs. Basically locking kids up in jail doesn't work. The number one deterrant is to give kids a job or something that draws them into meaningful citizenship. Now I know the majority of posters to thsi news media don't want to hear thsi because it doesn't fit there worldview, but it also costs tax payers about three times as much to incarcerate a youth than it does to give them a high school diploma. So if we do the math investing in our communities and kids who might be attracted to gangs is an investment in our future economic sustainability. Unless you want to pay for kids to be in jail for the rest of their lives (tax revenue) we need to think of real solutions not ideological ones

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