Focus on pluses, Berglin urges

  • Article by: WARREN WOLFE , Star Tribune
  • Updated: August 19, 2009 - 7:42 AM

State Sen. Linda Berglin pushes back at critics of national health care proposals. Some governors "are just ignorant" about details of what's being attempted, she said.

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merleingaAug. 18, 0910:49 PM

Mighty understanding of her........ As for Sen Keoring's insurance, she is in a state that is billions in debt, even with this year's trickery, so it isnt going too good. Better than the feds 2 trillion deficit, however. I guess in Berglin-world, there is a money tree...... Would it be an uninformed distraction to tell her money really doesnt grow on trees? Berglame would be a better name!

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tacyrayAug. 18, 0911:01 PM

Our schools, firefighters, and road systems are run by the government. Medicare - which many townhall protesters enjoy - is socialized healthcare. France's socialized healthcare system is ranked #1 in the world by the WHO, and they only spend 11% of GDP on it. The French get to choose their own doctors. The United States spends a whopping 15% of GDP on healthcare, and our system is ranked 37th - right ahead of Slovenia and Cuba. Can someone explain to me why socialized healthcare is so bad? And don't tell me it's going to result in rationing. Insurance companies already ration healthcare by denying claims in order to keep record high profits.

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swimraftAug. 18, 0911:07 PM

with their free health care system? A: Healthy. What do you call a sick/injuried Canadian looking for health care? A: a tourist in the US.

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allhailfsmAug. 18, 0911:11 PM

Why is socialized healthcare bad? Simple. If we have health care for everyone, and no one is at risk of facing bankruptcy due to illness or accident, then the Death Panel Industry will not be able to sell their high profit insurance packages.

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swimraftAug. 18, 0911:21 PM

That sums it up doesn't it. No clue, or no scruples.

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iluvminnAug. 18, 0911:23 PM

In my rural area there are many decent homes, abandoned and going to rot. The crops are good this year. Yet, many people are homeless and hungry. Getting the general economy working is our only priority. Some historic, unspecified health care reform initiative only matters to those who live in a very different reality. This health care reform discussion sounds like, "Let them eat cake."

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MoojaAug. 18, 0911:25 PM

is now becoming afraid of freedom. Freedom dwarfs health care as a national issue. Don't be afraid to succeed. Don't be afraid to fail. Don't give up your right to do either.

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swimraftAug. 18, 0911:31 PM

You're not from a rural area - or you'd know better to post your lies. My Grand father moved back to Minnesota during the depression. He said even if you don't have any money you always have food and you can put a roof over your head. Look for the safety nets in your county or stop with the lies.

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pagemarshAug. 18, 0911:54 PM

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_BRITAIN_US_HEALTH_CARE?SITE=MOSTP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
An example of how other countries are fed up with the right wing in the US spreading blatant lies about their system. Australians think we are full of morons with our system as well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8201711.stm
People around the world have better life expectancies, lower infant deaths, etc.
Let's talk about costs of treatments:
CAT/CT scan costs from around the country-
http://www.comparecatscancost.com/
Houston, TX- $3,016/Chicago, IL- $2,237/Atlanta, GA - Testing Facility A- $698/Atlanta, GA - Testing Facility B- $2,214/Phoenix, AZ- $2,199/Omaha, NE- $1,611/Portland, OR - Testing Facility A- $1,520/Portland, OR - Testing Facility B- $678/Cleveland, OH- $1,075
What are the costs so different between states? GUFFMAN and SWIMRAFT, WHY is that acceptable? The PROCEDURE is exactly the SAME and doctors should all have the SAME license.
Meanwhile, in India (many of our doctors come from India these days), a CAT/CT scan will run you around $230. In Japan, a CAT/CT scan will run you around $350 without insurance ($105 with national health insurance).
We have the costliest system in the world and believe that it is the best (which it probably is, if you are fortunate enough to be able to receive it). But, don't let people like GUFFMAN, SWIMRAFT, and the rest would rather suggest that Liberals are soft and would throw money around like water. If some watered down system does pass, in order to get votes from hardliners like yourselves, then I will hold your lot accountable for paying your own Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc, because my generation isn't going to take care of you when you get older. YOU ARE THE IGNORANT ONES and stop suggesting anything otherwise, because you have absolutely no clue and live lives full of delusions. Stop declining to work with people and get your voices in there to help produce something that is good and not watered down to the point of being costly and useless.

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vikesman444Aug. 18, 0911:54 PM

She is stupid. Yea, who cares who will pay for it. As a Dem, we will just raise taxes. Duh... Don't focus on the little unimportant things like where the money will come from or if it will lead to rationing. Possibilities are what is important. Kind of like hope and change. That's all we got is hope from Obamie. Hope he doesn't raise my taxes to pay for this mess.

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