Minnetonka will open school for gifted students

  • Article by: AIMÉE BLANCHETTE , Star Tribune
  • Updated: February 11, 2009 - 12:38 AM

The school will serve highly intelligent elementary school children who are being under-served by traditional programs.

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tomf5900Feb. 11, 0910:17 AM

I understand that Minnetonka is a very 'above-average' place, but statistically, there are approximately 8 students in the entire Minnetonka school district who have an IQ at or above 145. Even if Minnetonka is double the norm, this would bring the total up to 16. This means that there are about 2 students per grade level at this intellectual level. If Minnetoka has identified 50 eligible students, I would like to know what is in the water. Tom Furey

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jace006Feb. 11, 0910:55 AM

I agree with Tom. I ran some quick numbers on the 8-11 age group in the Mtka. school district, and analyzed the WISC-IV IQ rarity chart. If it is true that 'at least' 50 kids aged 8-11 in the Mtka. school district have an IQ of 'around 145 or higher', they have approximately 22 times the expected amount. Statistically this is very unlikely, approaching impossible. There might be 2-3 kids in this age range with 145+, but 50?

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reapsychFeb. 11, 09 2:02 PM

My nephew, in a northern suburb, was a gifted child but he was "underserved" throughout his school career. The outcome (he is now a young adult) was unfortunate, so I understand the value in addressing a persons educational needs at an appropriate level, but.... I lived in Minnetonka for 15 years and seem to recall some concern about how we were going to pay for all the regular educational expenses. Since moving away in July 2008, has the district found money to pay all the usual expenses and can now spend the left over money on a few students? If not, who is going to pay for this special treatment? How about the parents pay a surcharge (the cost above the cost for education a "regular" student) for these special programs? Idealism vs reality.

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wwallace67Feb. 11, 09 4:16 PM

reapsych,

I see your "parents of gifted students should have to pay extra" and raise you "parents of "blind/deaf/ADHD/stunted learner/etc. students should have to pay extra."

Regarding the IQ of 145, that is pretty tough, and I would like to see an estimate of the number of children in each grade that have that IQ.

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thor8576Feb. 11, 09 9:17 PM

I think it is not importaant who is or not higher on the I.Q scale........ as a citizen.. where do they rate.... can they help a person to the car with a huge load of groceries,, if older are they more or less apt to help... can they start ttheir car when it is cold or are they to smart for that / calll 333aaa... we all have a gift/ and no school; teaches to share your gift with others.... we have schools teaching why they deserve more than others,,,, and why they are owed...... because of blessing or lack of blessings...

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wwallace67Feb. 11, 09 9:25 PM

From what I understand, in the general population, only 13 out of 10,000 will have an IQ of 145 (sd15).

It would probably make more sense to have the cut off be IQ 135 sd15, which is 1 in 100, or IQ 139 sd15, which is 1/200in order to fill out the classes.

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pmhigashiFeb. 11, 0911:24 PM

I am so excited for this to finally pass. I have 2 students in the Minnetonka school system. Both are very bright students and have greatly benefitted from the progressive ideals of this School system. Both children would have been very well served had this opportunity been available at the time. Yes there are indeed children possessing an IQ of 145, my Son is one of them. I am so glad for the future students who will benefit from this program, I am a proud Minnetonka Parent.

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coffeebreak8Feb. 11, 0911:32 PM

It starts with two classrooms in one school and hopefully the program will be a HUGE success. If it expands perhaps it will be eligible for open enrollment so all the super smart metro area students can attend.

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derbygalFeb. 12, 0912:54 AM

I think this school is a great idea. The needs of the gifted are finally being considered. This is NOT elitism, this is meeting the needs of all students. I just wish we were still residents of Minnetonka. My son was born there and would have qualified for this school. Which begs the question, what are they putting in the water?

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agougebasFeb. 12, 09 9:10 AM

I agree with Minnetonka choosing to start this high potential program. They are spending far more resources on immersion programs, including for half-day kindergarteners!,plus adding significant headcount each year as the kids age, and not providing any language options for those not in the immersion program. So to me, this is a small investment with a great return. And obviously part of the reason is to get non-district kids into the school district, just like the goal of the immersion programs.

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