Peter J. Nelson: The trouble with the governor's Green JOBZ

  • Article by: PETER J. NELSON
  • Updated: December 3, 2008 - 8:04 AM

It doesn't work to offer tax advantages to one industry that may not even be a good fit for Minnesota. Better to create a friendly climate for whatever might sprout.

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jusayinDec. 2, 08 9:59 PM

I would appreciate it if your organization would publish a realistic and comprehensive tax reform proposal. This is another in the long line of single focus tax and spend arguments that contains no rational interconnection. It relies on the "presumption" that the reader will "connect" the two concepts on their own and therfore support your argument without really knowing what it is. The panacea of business paying less in taxes and the rest of the population paying more taxes to fund their workforce is epitome of double-dipping. And yet you want more.

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linuxguyDec. 3, 08 8:15 AM

If conservatives believed in free markets they would hate JOBZ. JOBZ give special treatment (tax breaks) to Pawlenty's friend based on political considerations, not market considerations, and punishes those that fail to cooperate by sticking them with relatively higher taxes. Sadly, that is what conservatism has become, special breaks for the well connected and the rest pay the bill.

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miaconoDec. 3, 0810:27 AM

JOBZ didn't work. It won't work in this case, either. Why would a company willingly move to a state with even more government mandates? The only ones that will are those seeking government protection from competition, and possibly other favors. When pork meets green.

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michaelhuntDec. 3, 0810:50 AM

Typical of a "policy expert" from the American Experiment. Demand a reduction in taxes along with "educational reforms" and a "high-quality workforce", ignoring the obvious contradiction. Good thing this is available on-line, cuz Nelson's opinions aren't worthy of the paper they're printed on.

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jakeywDec. 3, 0811:35 AM

These jobs REQUIRE the government to subsidize them meaning that they cost the public more than the public would be willing to give them were the public allowed to decide how their money is spent. Green jobs are make-work jobs....this is a fact. We must remember that the government has no money and creates no revenue on its own... they simply take revenue from otherwise productive members of the economy... If Green jobs are created by the marketplace then great... if they need a government helping hand then they must be BS.

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ShannaraRoseDec. 3, 08 1:24 PM

Actually, all the recent Republican losses prove is that when the choice is between 'Democrat' and 'Democrat Wearing a Republican Costume', there's not much to choose between. Let the Republican Party give us a REAL choice, where there are clearly drawn principles of fiscal responsibility, individual freedoms, and personal responsibility issues, and then maybe continued losses would prove something -- other than the fact that Democrats and Republicans prefer to choose the real thing over a pretender ... even if not by much in some cases.

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all4reasonDec. 3, 08 3:41 PM

Yes, green business IS make work, because if businesses had their way we'd be burning coal and oil at record levels and lighting our homes with whale oil! Until green businesses can stand on there own, the government NEEDS to subsidize green business, because the "free market" economy only cares about one thing, cornholing the little guy. And yes, its also true that the government does not have a great track record at making business decisions, but I'd rather have some entity out there making an effort to protect the environment. The economy won't fix this on its own. Capitalism has no answer for the way we are degrading the environment. When all of a consumer's choices are damaging to the planet, there has to be a regulator on the consumer's choices.

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ACers99Dec. 3, 08 5:00 PM

These so called Green Jobs can only be created by heavy government subsidies. Subsidies that can only be provided by taxing the productive elements of Minnesota's economy. Thus green jobs are like paying someone to dig a ditch and then fill it in again afterwards and passing on the bill to taxpayers. No wealth is created, only expense heaped on the productive, putting them under even more stress. Some environment-friendly measures do not fall into this category, they are adopted because they make economic sense without government interference. Let people adopt these on their own and reject the tax and subsidy needed to impose the values and beliefs of the factually Fraudulent Global Warming Religion onto our state.

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BrandybuckDec. 4, 0812:21 AM

Mr Nelson likes to cite rankings. In a Thompson Reuters 2008 analysis of state rankings in 10 categories, none of the top 10 states in Quality of Life or Education ranked in the top for Cost of Business. In other words, they appear to be inversely proportional. As michaelhunt pointed out up-thread, the author's demand for a reduction in taxes along with "educational reforms" and a "high-quality workforce" is an obvious contradiction. I understand Missisippi has a low cost of doing business. I wonder why it consistently ranks at the bottom in Quality of Life and Education?

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