Disputed ballots: Judge for yourself

  • Article by: BOB VON STERNBERG and GLENN HOWATT , Star Tribune staff writers
  • Updated: November 28, 2008 - 9:17 PM

You can join in the puzzling over scribbles and ovals and arrows.

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littlebigboyNov. 28, 0810:02 PM

We should not use voter intent! We should use the law and follow it. mark the oval or the ballot is spoiled. Do it right or it doesn't count. Thats the law. Otherwise why do we have laws?

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joeeeeeeNov. 28, 0810:44 PM

That is the only way to achieve the perfection reqired. But seriously, it might help if the vote is entered by touchscreen, then have the machine print the perfectly filled in ballot which would be counted by the present counting machines. The voter would have the abilty to review his vote and the hard copy is essential just in case. It would be a great expense to set up new machines, but having looked at the ballots the Strib has put up it is obvious that a persistent minority of voters will never be able to produce a perfect ballot.

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dorikellerNov. 29, 08 1:05 AM

why Franken should never have been the DFL choice. I would have loved to have Coleman defeated but a Coleman vs. a Franken was no contest and the DFL should have realized that when they nominated a self-centered "stand-up comic" to oppose the Senator. Minnesottan's have only themselves to blame in giving this race over to the republicans.

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shiloh50Nov. 29, 08 2:18 AM

How can you say a Coleman vs Franken race was no contest. Are we not in a battle to see who will be the next senator because the race was so close that they needed a recount? There should be no blame on Franken. He ran a great race. If anything this reminds me alot of the 2000 presidential race when Gore was defeated by Bush. That race could have easily been won by Gore if people had not voted for Nader. Dean Barkley was also a strong contender and I do believe he took a lot of votes away from Franken. I don't care for Coleman and I believe he is just another Bush lackey who eventually will be defeated, but Franken shouldn't be blamed and either should the DFL.

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ottothewiseNov. 29, 08 8:17 AM

If Franken was so bad, why is the race so close it is still not quite counted? Let's face it. Franken did better than any of us would have done. And its not actually over. Being ahead doesnt matter today. It only matters after the sec of state says someone won.

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ottothewiseNov. 29, 08 8:20 AM

Also, the strib article seems to have forgotten, the commission expects the loser to sue to review the absentee ballot containers and make certain they were all rejected properly. I suspect this process has a few more weeks to go, no matter which candidate wins the recount in progress.

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PaulBarberNov. 29, 08 8:44 AM

I can see my own results of the Ballot Challenge, but why can't I view the results of how others have voted?

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sureshot01Nov. 29, 08 9:19 AM

If the state of Minnesota would elect a person such as Al Franken to the United States Senate, I think it may be time to move to another state.

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latteliberalNov. 29, 08 3:22 PM

1. to know the challenge breakdown by the issuing party (i.e. how many in the stack of 849 were launched by the Coleman observers vs Franken observers). 2. to know how third party challenges affect the outcome/count - there is a number of ballots in the pile that were challenged by a local race participant (MN House of Rep candidate, for instance). Why are those in the pile and how were they marked by the SOS Office? 3. You site has problems with crashing and/or regurgitating the same challenged ballots several times during the review. There are some ballots that I've seen for 3-4 times, and about a dozen and a half that I've seen come up twice. How does Strib account for that in their tally? I am guessing not in any shape way or form. All in all, a pretty telling exercise, this challenged ballot review. It illustrates just how frivolous some of the challenges are, esp. the "Republican Voter intent" challenges from Fillmore County, red ink challenges from Dems, incomplete oval filling, x or check marking. All these challenges are easily weaned out to bring the grand total to about 60%. If we then take out the spurious and whimsical id marks (stray marks, bleed through, pen wandering), the total number of challenges is easily less than 40%.

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kamsarNov. 29, 08 4:24 PM

Of the first 100, more than 80% were obviously Coleman votes. Why is this sample slanted?

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