As government goes long, what about the details?

  • Article by: LORI STURDEVANT , Star Tribune
  • Updated: December 14, 2013 - 3:15 PM

Big projects are all the rage, but what really matters is getting the basics right.

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redeye12Dec. 14, 13 3:33 PM

Copper Nickel first with Mayo a close second. The Vikings stadium will be a net loser. Stadium proponents have long maintained that public money for stadiums brings great job and development growth. Not true. Copper Nickel mining (with no tax dollars) will bring high paying jobs and provide a valuable resource to the economy. Mayo will bring research, healing, and high paying jobs. Although, I'd prefer no tax dollars. The stadium once it's built, will enrich Zygi and provide minimum wage jobs to beer salesmen.

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gemie1Dec. 14, 13 3:58 PM

It is always important to look into the future and start building a foundation today. My question is, how do they know that Mayo Clinic in Rochester will be able to produce 45,000 more jobs in 2933? If Mayo continues to rely heavily on Medicare patients and cannot bring people to the facility through private pay, will that not change the numbers? There are also very good facilities around the country and world that can compete with Mayo easily. The private pay will mostly generate from this region and are the numbers reflecting that reality? More interesting work and a high level of patient care seems to be generating out of the Jacksonville facility. This is something that is played down and not distracting donors from this region of the country.

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dave9398Dec. 14, 13 6:36 PM

The basics should be dependent on a strong private sector. The current administration is against this except where it benefits him (see the Mayo project)

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furguson11Dec. 14, 13 8:06 PM

"Minnesota used to put policy wonks to work measuring results at the State Planning Agency and its Minnesota Milestones program. Both got the budget ax a decade ago." Pawlenty axed the State Planning agency. How did that Jobsz program work out anyhow. Who knows?

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supervon2Dec. 14, 13 8:18 PM

The basics of mining and manufacturing and construction add wealth to society. The problem with health care is it takes money from one group of people and gives it to another with nothing to show for it. There is nothing permanent that provides a wide range result for many years as does building from the basics. Feeling good and doing good are completely different-one sells and the other requires work. Work seems to be a bad word these days.

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karendavid816Dec. 15, 13 6:43 AM

2933? How about what happens to the Mayo Clinic in 2015? Hope it isn't outside everyone's Obamacare network. It if it is, the very wealthy and the foreign customers will not be creating the momentum for the thousands of new jobs.

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nonewtaxesDec. 15, 13 6:49 AM

Keeping healthy and productive is an excellent investment.

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davehougDec. 15, 13 7:20 AM

WHEN has government done "economic development" that turned out as it was sold to the legislature????? Any past examples of how robbing Peter to pay Paul has ended up with more for sum of Peter and Paul????

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gemie1Dec. 15, 13 8:48 AM

Karendavid816, I meant to say 9933 (only kidding). I hope you realize that in my original post I hit the 9 by mistake while trying to say 2033. The O and 9 are right next to each other on the key board. Though, your comment is correct. Many people just in our state are shut out of Mayo Clinic. The health system is becoming more transparent and we see the 2 tier medical system evolving. I doubt those many long-term well paying jobs will materialize by 2033, and I believe the best they can hope for is keeping the jobs that are connected to Mayo right now. They are the biggest employer in the state. Interesting, public money being used to redo down town Rochester, but many tax payers will not be able to get care at Mayo, but the Governor and his buddies will be just fine. I also want to put out here, is it a conflict of interest, that the Governor's Chief-of-State who pushed through all of this, is sitting on the Board that will oversee this project and be paid for it? What is Ryback's position here with this Board and how much is he being paid? Is it true that all the long projects are connected and some people are making a lot of money? I am very open to any criticism or critique of what I just wrote.

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albundy74Dec. 15, 13 8:57 AM

furguson11:"How did that Jobsz program work out anyhow. Who knows?" The JOBZ program had the potential to really help outstate minnesota that lost it's manufacturing base when companies outsourced to China. As for what happened, the metro DFL sued to stop it saying it was too preferential,which is another way of saying the money didn't get spent within Minneapolis and St. Paul. Selfish and shortsighted by the DFL, the self-described 'labor' party of the working person.

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