What would you think if your health care worker aided torture?

  • Article by: Alison Schmidt
  • Updated: November 29, 2013 - 6:12 PM

Actually, without laws that punish complicity, you won’t know.

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christianstdNov. 29, 1310:06 PM

I think our President's drone program is killing innocent children in Afghanistan. Like a 2 year old & her mother. So? We're killing kids, no outrage, but torturing a bunch of thugs that want to kill us is outrageous & reaching to destroy the individuals who were doing their jobs is righteous? The left once again is able to be hypocritical beyond imagination.

swmnguyNov. 29, 1310:22 PM

Abortion, like it or not, is legal in the United States. Torture is never legal under any circumstances anywhere in the world. The false equivalence doesn't bear the slightest scrutiny. And the argument that we should allow "thugs that want to kill us" to set our moral standards for us is not worth discussion, though it is appalling that this sort of reason has hijacked our national consciousness and facilitated the dismantling of the principles which make America worth defending in the first place.

mrburns2Nov. 30, 13 6:22 AM

So they're doing their job as ordered, regardless of how gruesome you may think it is, and they lose the right to work for the rest of their lives. Seems fair to me...not. What our young writer may not have experienced yet in life is persistent attempts by terrorists to harm Americans. Those techniques, gruesome to you as they seem, have saved possibly thousands of lives. It has been documented that info was used to thwart future attacks, and some detainees let go have gone on to perform other attacks (maybe not harsh enough you may ask?). War is the most gruesome thing on this planet, and certain aspects of war are reserved for only a few that can handle it. Just because you can't, or think that the slime ball willing to gut your children if given the chance deserve his "rights", then you have just weakened a country further by writing this article. And the MN legislature better think twice before approving any law to further protect these "non-US citizen" criminals.

supervon2Nov. 30, 13 6:58 AM

I don't get it. People go home after a war. It's over then.

Willy53Nov. 30, 13 7:35 AM

Our use of torture is not over nor is it justified by any logic offered in these comments. Those that made torture US Policy during the Iraq and Afghanistan occupations have never been held accountable and that extends down to the people who broke the law by obeying orders they knew were sanctioned against by International Law. This is what we held the Nazis to after WWII and this is what we should hold ourselves to after these disasterous and illegally conducted occupations. Until we repair our torture history and hold ourselves accountable, the moral right of the US to promote democracy and human rights has been destroyed.

workforit1Nov. 30, 13 7:55 AM

I would probably thank him/her for their service to our country and buy them dinner. That is what I would do!

eddie55431Nov. 30, 1310:11 AM

Murder is also illegal, but when you go to war you expected to kill. How you kill and how you interrogate are both governed by the rules of war, but those lines get crossed now and then because average people are put into horrific circumstances. The rules of interrogation used were vetted by some of the best legal minds in the government. 20/20 moralistic hindsight by some student who enjoys the freedom paid for by those who served is disgusting.

owatonnabillNov. 30, 1310:31 AM

You would think that a law school student would back up her case by facts. This is not the case in this article. Ms. Schmidt makes great use of the words "accused of" and "alleged" while noting that the accused people were still practicing. Doesn't Ms. Schmidt understand the basic underlying principle in American law, that of innocent until PROVEN guilty? Also, just what were the accusations? The closest Schmidt comes to answering that questions is some vague allegations about what she believes health care and psychological workers IN GENERAL may have been involved in in Abu Graihb and Guantanamo. Nothing specific. And without the specifics we are led to believe that "torture" was assisted by these people when in fact it may not have been legal "torture" at all but merely a subjective interpretation of the same by the writer. Ms. Schmidt was wise not to include names, otherwise the another fundamental American legal principle may creep into the picture, that of "libel".

smilesNov. 30, 1311:01 AM

Torture interrogations according to the CIA and the National Defense Intelligence University and Rumsfeld's own Working Group on Counter Resistance Interrogations. 1a. Collect bad intelligence (e.g. such as the intel that Saddam and al-Queda were cooperating on bioweapons). 1b. The bad information leads to bad policy (1a intel was brought to UN to justify the war in Iraq) and field maneuvers. 2. Radicalize enemies who are political opponents. 3. Destroy the possibility of recruiting human intelligence resources from prisoners. 4. Invite retaliatory torture and execution of our POWs (Gen Colin Powel was big on this one and it was true in Iraq.) 5. Radicalize a supporting population against the torturers (Iraqi support for US intervention dropped from 70+% to less than 25% with Abu Ghraib photos. 6. Encourage enemy to fight to last bullet rather than surrender. 7. Approving torture makes it impossible to appeal to International law to dictators like in Iran (Compare case of Anatoly Koryagin and Pourindijani). 8. According to DOD, 85% of prisoners in Iraq and 80% at Gitmo were innocent or ignorant of any insurgent activity and were abused for no reason. Perhaps the torture advocates here will supply one example were torture worked in the War on Terror. Steve Miles

DO1023Nov. 30, 13 3:26 PM

Whatever happens to the detainees is ok with me. After all they are a bunch of thugs who got caught killing Americans. Save all that money, start the instituting the firing squad.


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