With ranked choice, third-party voters have a say

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  • Updated: November 9, 2013 - 2:00 PM

With few delusions of success, they can pick on principle

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davehougNov. 9, 13 9:54 PM

As long as there are 3 nobodies in the race, RCV is totally irrelevant. So puny votes for 3 guys who never tried to get elected get shuffled around. So What. The guy with the most votes will win as usual. RCV is only expensive and does NOT elect a 'majority' candidate when there are several candidates in the race.

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davehougNov. 9, 13 9:58 PM

If a guy from party A runs against two guys from party B.....guy from A merely has to get 3 nobodies into the race also and those puny votes will get reallocated. The other two big contenders will NOT have those votes reallocated unless it was a 3-way race. Take a look at any ballot. There are usually a several nobodies who may get there handful of votes shifted arount. RCV just spends a lot of time and money shifting the deck chairs on the Titanic.

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davehougNov. 9, 1310:02 PM

I wish RCV would change political behavior and get campaigns to play nice. I fear the old approach of 'trash talk' will continue with the exception that the current powers will merely be sure 3 nobodies also appear on the ballot.

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bizsmithNov. 10, 13 5:48 AM

I, too have been forced into voting for inconsequential candidates because I could not force myself to vote for the primary candidates. Maybe RCV would help but I won't hold my breath.

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swmnguyNov. 10, 13 7:05 AM

RCV isn't going to eliminate the advantages that come from corporate wealth and media exposure. But it will help even out some of distortions of the two-party structure. We will be able to see ruses like "triangulation" more clearly.

In the past 30 years or so, both the Democratic and Republican parties have moved to the Right of the majority of Americans on most issues. Many times, a voter picks the candidate less farther to the Right than they are. With RCV, they will continue to do that, but their other choices will show where there preferences truly lay.

It was telling to see the candidates who had more 2nd choice votes than 1st, and more 3rd than 2nd. That and the 9th Ward election should put an end to any talk that there is a reservoir of frustrated Conservative voters in Minneapolis.

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firefight41Nov. 10, 13 8:12 AM

I, too have been forced into voting for inconsequential candidates because I could not force myself to vote for the primary candidates. ****************** Why were you forced into voting? If there is not a candidate I care about, I just don't vote,

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verstandNov. 10, 13 8:57 AM

Great commentary on two vital points. One: Ranked-choice let's us gage voter intent on much more granular level. Two: Affirmation of voters who don't vote for one of the two major parties. One of the best letters I have read here in a long time.

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rlundl02Nov. 10, 13 9:35 AM

I'm inclined to think it's a bit of a gimmick, but I played along this round. My wife just voted for the person she wanted. As long as that option's available, I suppose RCV is OK. As you can tell, I don't have the excitement that the writer has about it. I suggest to her, don't tie you sense of self worth to a political candidate. None of them deserve that.

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redeye12Nov. 10, 13 4:40 PM

But it doesn't get a third party candidate elected. The Dem machine controls Mpls. All of the desire for third party success is just a pipe dream. RCV didn't change a thing. Other than the cost, of course.

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ginny6Nov. 11, 1312:13 PM

"The Dem machine controls Mpls." ------ Actually, Minneapolis is populated by a large percentage of active, engaged citizens whose views tend to be more in line with the Democratic party. There is no "machine." There is nothing keeping people of any political party from running.

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