Craig: Vikings personnel, not schemes, hamper defense

  • Article by: MARK CRAIG , Star Tribune
  • Updated: October 30, 2013 - 12:12 AM

The Vikings defense shows that subpar personnel will sink any scheme.

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spemmarOct. 29, 13 9:11 PM

Here's the problem with your argument, Craig. The 49ers were 8&8 the previous years before Harbaugh took over. Basically the same talent and team; but he immediately made them better every year. He's been there three years and they are a super bowl contender. Last year the Chiefs went 2-14; with Andy Reid and basically the same team they are not 8-0. Also, some coaches are great Coordinators and others make great head coaches. Buddy Ryan? Great Coordinator; not so great Head Coach. Frazier...hmmmm....great guy and probably a decent D Coordinator; but evidence suggests not a great head coach. Likewise you can not tell me that a Sean Payton, Belichek, or either Harbaugh Brother wouldn't make this Viking team a hell of lot better. Now the one area that does make a huge difference when it comes to personnel is clearly QB. A great QB can make a great coach; and great team, and even a productive Defense. Take Aaron Rogers from the Packers and put in Seneca Wallace; and they aren't beating anyone. Facts are facts. So with that said, let's get an innovative and talented Coordinator or proven big time coach; and then get Manziel or Mariota and try this thing again next year. Somehow I'm thinking with the core of this team back next year and with a far more talented coach an QB things will be dramatically and markedly better.

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wakebrderOct. 29, 13 9:26 PM

Leslie- Did you write this article?

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ddellwoOct. 29, 13 9:29 PM

November and December for the Minnesota Vikings is going to be the football equivalent of the Baton Death March......:(

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md56482Oct. 29, 13 9:34 PM

Seriously...Jim Harbaugh would make this team a lot better? Take a look at what you have. You can't scheme away the problems of not being able to cover someone. In fact, that was our problem early in the season. We were trying to confuse the offense, and ended up confusing ourselves more. Give Frazier a couple of quality corners and a good quarterback and he'll look like a genius too. Without Rodgers, the Packers are a 3-win team too.

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wecandoitOct. 29, 13 9:35 PM

How about cutting one of the extras that never plays and get another db? Or release Carlson the disappointing big money tight end and get Winfield? Anyway moot point since we need to tank the rest of the year. Draft Clowney first and get Johnny Football later.

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bigbradOct. 29, 13 9:44 PM

Succesful teams have owners that desire to win. Other teams have owners who desire to just make money. It's pretty obvious what kind of owners the vikings have from New Jersey...

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cbehlingOct. 29, 13 9:47 PM

ddellwo: I believe you're referring to the Bataan Death March, not Baton. Just sayin' ; )

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easportzzOct. 29, 13 9:47 PM

I really agree with spemmar and generally refute most of the talk of these pundits regarding the personnel. To the extent that we lack high quality personnel, is that not on the coaching staff anyway? To develop personnel? Though there are certainly holes and an infusion of talent is needed, the inability to interrupt offenses consistently tells me it is a systemic problem, and scheme/coaching is everything in that. And on offense, there is simply no question that the coaching staff has failed to develop a QB, failed to take advantage of a remarkably talented rookie WR, and been outmatched in the preparation leading up to games where they find opposing defenses a step ahead of their play calling.

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Douglind33Oct. 29, 13 9:53 PM

As long as this D limits itself to 11 guys on the field at one time, they're going to have serious problems.

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HuskyLax16Oct. 29, 13 9:58 PM

The problem lies in player development, many players have regressed in Frazier's tenure, but can you name anyone who's gotten any better?

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