Souhan: Frazier doesn't deserve this nasty, brutish year

  • Article by: JIM SOUHAN , Star Tribune
  • Updated: October 27, 2013 - 8:12 PM

The classy Vikings coach could be heading for a pink slip because of organizational blunders not of his doing.

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elo_62Oct. 26, 13 6:13 PM

Cannot argue with Souhan at all on this article. The stink and rot of the Vikings lies with its ownership and front office. The organization is not classy and only continues to worsen. What should we expect given the owners are convicted criminals. Too bad ...

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bobajoulOct. 26, 13 6:20 PM

Players win and without them, they lose. Agree with article. And there is one other thing left out of this article. Some of the prior key producers- Williams, Winfield, Allen are starting the slow slide into retirement or are gone. This was the bellwether of the defense, now teams run against us and there is no experience at corner. That leaves them even more exposed and vulnerable. Winfield held the secondary together. The Vikes have youth, but no moxie. Can't blame Ziggy too much, he provided resources when needed to try and win the 2009 season, but that was the shot. This team needs to be further blown up. We have no QB, offensive line is not a strength anymore and receivers are so-so.

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verve612Oct. 26, 13 6:23 PM

Sorry, Souhan -- but we're not going to buy it. Nobody is arguing that Leslie may be a great human being, a likeable guy, and a calm personality. What we're taking issue with is the lack of common sense decisions in regards to game management (player substitutions, questionable play calling, clock management, the list goes on) all of which lies squarely as Frazier's responsibility. This is regardless of situation he was put in (eg. ridiculous quarterback carasel) by a GM who is obviously running the show. Frazier is part of the problem and should be relieved of his duties, as with all the coaches, at the end of the season so we can start anew and try to pretend this season never happened.

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weneedbudOct. 26, 13 6:34 PM

I don't know. Frazier may be a great guy but so am I (HAH) and you wouldn't want me coaching the Vikes either.

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co14ervikingOct. 26, 13 6:43 PM

Great article. I agree in full. MN's biggest problem is and has been the QB or lack there of for many many years. I'm 37 and the last time they had a REAL franchise QB was probably before I was born. I want them to win but you cannot do it without a great QB. Frazier is seeing that first hand from the view of head coach.

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datelessnerdOct. 26, 13 6:59 PM

Leslie Frazier is a great guy who has risen to his level of incompetence as an NFL head coach. It was a mistake for the Wilfs to promote him without considering other candidates. However, the Wilfs greatest mistake has been the Millen-like trust they've placed in Rick Spielman. Spielman's actions show a clear pattern -- He's more interested in deflecting criticism than in winning football games. No competent head coach is going to put up with that nonsense. Until Spielman goes, the Vikings will continue to struggle.

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yathinksoOct. 26, 13 6:59 PM

Rick Spielman should be fired. No question this team has so many holes on offense and defense and it is going to take years for this team to rebuild. Remember, 2 years ago we stunk. This year, we stink even worse. Time to get rid of Spielman before he can do any more damage with this personnel.

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coachingguyOct. 26, 13 7:03 PM

The Vikings aged quickly and made some questionable personnel decisions. Success in College and Pro football comes down to QB. I agree wholeheartedly with Souhans take on Frazier. Frazier is the man you would want to play for and have your sons play for. But he's also a defensive specialist who was hamstrung with a poor OC and QB play besides Favre. His loyalty to his friends (not a bad trait in life) had him select Wlliams as DC, and that's turned out to be a bad decision based on the play/effort of the D. At the end of the day, I'd like to see the Wilfs give Coach Frazier another opportunity, if he's wiling to make some coaching staff changes. But Frazier has shown an impressive level of responsibility so far and will likely fall on the sword himself rather than sacrifice someone else. I haven't been proud of a Vikings head coach since Bud... Until Leslie.

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jplamp9Oct. 26, 13 7:04 PM

Great human being and classy coach. Lacks judgment believing Ponder can play qb. If he was vocal and told management that Ponder couldn't play then management and ownership wouldn't have drunk the Ponder cool-aid. Vikes could have drafted a qb 2 years ago. Spielman whiffed with Ponder (could have drafted Dalton, Kaepernick or Wilson). Spielman should get the boot too.

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zeldacOct. 26, 13 7:21 PM

Everyone agrees that Frazier is a nice guy. However, he is not up to a top level coach in the NFL. Lets start with HIS OC and DC picks. No imagination in either field. Maybe if he had more creative coaches he could do a good job in soothing personel problems. Bottom line I believe is that Frazier should coach at the college level possibly a DII level coach. He needs to show more fire and rah rah as well as doing a better job explaining to reporters without looking confused.

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