I-35W bridge: Closing the gap

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  • Updated: July 2, 2008 - 1:35 PM
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buckbadgerJul. 2, 0812:16 PM

We would have never gotten to see this marvelous engineering feat had MnDOT, the bridge designers and construction crew adequately done their jobs. Thanks guys.

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marpalleclJul. 2, 0812:27 PM

that we can not perform all MNDOT projects with this sort of speed and efficiency.

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plattstephenJul. 2, 0812:44 PM

But wait, you don't understand,new stadium's are more important than safe road's. Get with the program folk's VC

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chadmg7Jul. 2, 0812:55 PM

Let's keep three things in mind. First, had Mn/DOT not been utterly mismanaged by gross ineptitude (Molnau), the agency would not be in the situation it is in today. Second, had Mn/DOT been properly funded, rather than being wrung dry by myopic leadership (a la Pawlenty), the agency would not be in the same situation today. Third, please try to keep in mind that Mn/DOT does not build the roads and bridges. They manage them. They direct the construction teams who build the roads and bridges. What it really comes down to in this particular instance is that a hefty cash reward is waiting for the company(ies) involved in this bridge construction if the bridge is finished ahead of schedule. You'd be surprised at how closely linked a financial reward is to the project timeline. As with any private or public institution, I'm sure Mn/DOT has its flaws. But when distributing blame, make sure to include all guilty parties in your assessment.

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guffmanJul. 2, 08 1:13 PM

That's about all I need to say about efficiency and correctness in delivering results. As for the claims that the current administration is responsible for this situation, pull your head out of you ***. These problems were first DOCUMENTED nearly 17 years ago. Nice try, Chadster, you fail.

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lvanonymousJul. 2, 08 1:17 PM

Remember when they were planning the Crosstown expansion a decade (or so) ago? MnDOT's "plan" was too expensive, no measures were taken to compensate for the traffic that would have been redirected from the Crosstown into Richfield and Bloomington during the construction, and the best part? After the 4-6 year project was completed, it would be under capacity (as measured at the START of the project to boot). MnDOT ignored every counter-argument with the same arrogant attitude it takes to widen a 2 lane highway to 6 lanes, but leave a 2 lane bridge in the middle so as to ensure a bottleneck and negate the expansion in the first place. Finally, the state legislature had to step in and pass legislation to stop MnDOT.

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mnrob32Jul. 2, 08 1:26 PM

.. we're probably only 5 posts or so away from the usual wingnut chiming in about how this is Bush's fault and would have been avoided if we weren't in Iraq.

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heretical1Jul. 2, 08 1:27 PM

Although I have quite a few disagreements with those currently running the executive branch of government in the state of Minnesota as well as some of the things MnDOT has done recently, I am still unconvinced that anyone who has been around less than eight years has any real culpability in the collapse of the original bridge. Although the "official" findings of the NTSB haven't been released yet, their preliminary findings said that faulty gusset plates were most likely what failed and initiated the collapse. They didn't fail because they were defective (meaning the defect could have been discovered and repaired and in which case MnDOT would be very responsible), they failed because they were only half as thick as they should have been due to a flaw in the bridge design. Everyone who has inspected the original bridge since it went up was simply examining the parts for wear and making sure they matched up to the blueprints; they were in no way responsible for re-analyzing the math and recalculating all of the designs. Unless someone actually has the job of constantly going over all of the blueprints for all of the stuctures that the state has built, we really can only point the finger at bad architects and those who double-check designs before they're built.

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chadmg7Jul. 2, 08 1:43 PM

When responding on public forums, please learn to control your distasteful rage (which you so *cleverly* disguised with asterisks). In addition, nowhere in my post did I solely blame the current administration. Obviously, if one looks far enough back into history, you will find examples of neglect and mismanagement that can be related to the existing problem. The point is that the current administration has failed in this aspect, and in many other respects. Poor leadership (Molnau had no background in engineering) and poor financial management (Pawlenty has continued to trim Mn/DOT's budget despite growing funding needs) have driven this problem even further home and these people should be held accountable for their mismanagement and poor leadership. Bottom line.

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mclass35Jul. 2, 08 1:52 PM

Still, it's impressive that this massive structure is going up so fast.

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