MNsure debut is a civic milestone

  • Article by: Editorial Board , Star Tribune
  • Updated: September 30, 2013 - 8:25 PM

There’s time to shop, compare. Enrollment extends through March.

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arspartzSep. 30, 13 8:28 PM

A system that was affordable mainly for the healthy or those working for large employers will now be accessible to millions more people in Minnesota and elsewhere. That’s why the marketplaces’ launch and the rollout of the Affordable Care Act in 2014 is a civic milestone on par with the implementation of Social Security or Medicare.

Who pays for these previously "un-insurable people? Those healthy people, that's who. We need to stop calling this new system "health insurance." Insurance is a financial agreement between willing people. Forcing healthy people into the same risk pool with others who have a preexisting condition known to be expensive is not insurance, it's welfare. It is pure and simple redistribution of wealth.

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alansonSep. 30, 13 9:16 PM

I'd hold the celebration until the exchange actually opens, and that isn't tomorrow.

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drichmnSep. 30, 1310:24 PM

"Forcing healthy people into the same risk pool with others who have a preexisting condition known to be expensive is not insurance," ... what do you think happens with employer provided insurance? You think that employed people are only healthy people without preexisting conditions?

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Wally_99Sep. 30, 1310:50 PM

It is nothing of the kind. It represents a crown jewel of socialism. This type of government has been an abject failure across history.

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rebelallianzOct. 1, 1312:02 AM

Yeah, it's a real "civic milestone" alright. One where ever more people feel justified in putting their costs onto the backs of their neighbors, in our increasingly dog-eat-dog world. Nowhere is it mentioned how the supposed "need" for the Affordable Care Act came about as a result of the creation of the FDA, a giant federal bureaucracy which costs over a billion dollars to approve every new drug, costs which all get passed on to consumers. Nowhere is it mentioned how the HMO Act of 1973 reduced competition by driving small independent doctors out of business or into the large HMO collectives. And nowhere is it mentioned how countries with a genuine free market in healthcare, like Thailand, have high-quality medicine that is so cheap, even the poor don't need health insurance, they can still pay for their medical care in cash out of pocket just like Americans did 40 years ago.

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arspartzOct. 1, 13 1:57 AM

Nowhere is it mentioned how the HMO Act of 1973 reduced competition by driving small independent doctors out of business or into the large HMO collectives.

Nowhere is it mentioned what effect below cost Medicare reimbursements have had on prices.

Nowhere is it mentioned what effect EMTALA has had on prices.

Nowhere is it mentioned how the new Medicare "quality of care" based reimbursements will change things, a system that bases "quality" on how nice you were treated rather than actual outcomes.

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arspartzOct. 1, 13 2:01 AM

what do you think happens with employer provided insurance? You think that employed people are only healthy people without preexisting conditions?

I have the option, however limited, to change employers. Now an inescapable federal law.

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eljeljOct. 1, 13 7:01 AM

Yeh, this would be historic, except when you try to go to their website it says "website can't be found." Way to go Minnesota.

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eljeljOct. 1, 13 7:32 AM

Ok, now I can get to their page, but there is no place to enroll.

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spicebearOct. 1, 13 8:49 AM

eljelj... MnSure is conducting a test this morning, they will bring the system online this afternoon.

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