Weekend brings no progress in Minnesota Orchestra dispute

  • Article by: Graydon Royce , Star Tribune
  • Updated: September 29, 2013 - 8:27 PM

With the threat of Osmo Vänskä’s resignation looming, no new proposals were forwarded over the weekend.

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jredcornSep. 29, 13 8:13 PM

Looks like the board is intending to break the MN Orchestra and has no intent to negotiate in good faith. The musicians have taken the high road all along. Heck, maybe once the Board succeeds with destroying the orchestra, some of those "replacement workers" from NWA and Crystal Sugar can come play "Theme from Deliverance"...

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totaltruthSep. 29, 13 8:33 PM

This is GREAT news... The faster we can do away with the current orchestra members who have 100% allegiance to their union and 0% allegiance to their audience... the better...

There are many young extremely talented musicians who can replace these people... and the orchestra will still be top notch...

Keep it up orchestra... Keep turning down the proposals.... PLEASE ! ! !

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violanorthSep. 29, 13 8:48 PM

So the MOA is now canceling concerts it never actually announced or put on sale? That seems like a development worth more than a throwaway sentence at the end of the article. Has anyone asked them what their 2013-14 season schedule looks like? They seem very reluctant to acknowledge that they've even planned one.

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dflleftSep. 29, 13 8:49 PM

PRETTY obvious that the musicians will not take a cut in pay; pretty obvious the funds are not there to accomodate....might be best now if everyone moves on.

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lawyerguySep. 29, 13 9:17 PM

The Minnesota orchestra is not the only major symphony which has sought a salary reduction from its musicians. Each organization had a structural deficit and could not afford the existing musician wage scale. In each instance musician salaries were reduced. Exactly why does anyone, including these musicians, think the outcome should or will be different in Minnesota?

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mnpls123Sep. 29, 13 9:22 PM

Has the MN orchestra paid attention to other deals. St. Paul musicians took a 18.6% pay cut and less positions. Philly orchestra went into chapter 11 and the music players took 15% cuts, no pensions and a smaller Orchestra. Atlanta 17% pay cuts and a smaller orchestra. NYC opera is about to enter bankruptcy. Looks like someone needs a reality check, and it isn't the board.

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melkp76Sep. 29, 13 9:25 PM

I believe I read somewhere that musicians were proposing an end to the lockout using the $20K/musician "bonus" to cover any potential losses during that time. That sounds like a serious counter-proposal to me. But once again, management make misleading statements, and the Strib echoes them.

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subotai1Sep. 29, 13 9:28 PM

Yet another ignoramus run organization that thinks that they can cut salary, raise fees (coming soon), build a new taj mahal and field a crappy team and the public will not notice the difference. It did not work for the twins or timberwolves and it will not work for an orchestra.

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jpcooperSep. 29, 13 9:33 PM

lawerguy "Each organization had a structural deficit and could not afford the existing musician wage scale. In each instance musician salaries were reduced. Exactly why does anyone, including these musicians, think the outcome should or will be different in Minnesota?

maybe they are waiting for the Liberal Governor to bail them out? maybe a new tax on the "rich" to cover them??

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DufferHSep. 29, 13 9:34 PM

Musicians say they want "artistic integrity." Translation -- "Give us $134,000 even if the funds aren't there." It's really hard to take this little union seriously.

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