With his Twins future in limbo, Gardenhire doesn't fret

  • Article by: PHIL MILLER , Star Tribune
  • Updated: September 28, 2013 - 11:38 PM

The Twins have been mum on his future, but a decision is expected soon.

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stanbobSep. 28, 13 8:24 PM

terry ryan signing a new contract would be a travesty...

johnnygringoSep. 28, 13 9:43 PM

if Ryan and Gardy come back , write in another 90+ loss season in 2014....

bluedevil101Sep. 28, 1310:02 PM

If you think that the Twins are going to lose fewer than 90 games next year regardless of who is the manager you are wrong. The roster is minor leaguers. If you'll recall the guys who are playing are the same guys who finished in last place with Rochester several years back. If they could not win in AAA why would they win in the majors? It also doesn't matter who is signed. There's not enough money in the world to replace every single player with a quality major league player. So, go ahead and sign Dan Haren for $22 mil. Go ahead and sign Matt Garza for $22 mil. It won't make one bit of difference-the team will not be close to .500 until there are new players at 7 of the 8 field positions. Manager changes don't matter when the talent level is this discrepant.

r112136Sep. 28, 1310:14 PM

While it is true nobody could win with this group of players. Gardy proved to be a very mediocre manager even when given 2 mvp's and a supporting cast of good players, so what do you expect out of him with this group? The problem is the person who assembled the teams of the last 3 years. Ryan needs to go followed closely by Gardy and Anderson.

orienbrSep. 28, 1310:24 PM

I find it mysterious that several former Twins players are doing much better AFTER leaving. It doesn't matter which team acquired them; the players thrive. We are lacking something in the coaching or management. The talent is not developed. Just where is the problem?? You can't blame the players...just look around at the former team players now on Playoff teams.

bluedevil101Sep. 28, 1310:28 PM

I won't argue that the post season success of the team has been ZERO since 2002. That's the facts. But, I would argue that the Yankees and Angels (and perhaps Oakland) had better teams that the Twins. Sure, Minnesota had Santana, but management would not pull the trigger on the Cliff Lee trade that maybe would have put them in the drivers seat in the AL. Management's fears of whatever are not the field manager's fault. You've got to have shut down pitching to win the pennant-and the Twins did not and have not had that. The 2004 Yankee series was a heart breaker that was very close with the Twins losing 7-6 in 12 in game 2 and 6-5 in 11 in game 4. In that game 4, the Twins led 5-1 in the 8th before Kyle Lohse allowed the Yanks to tie it up. That series could have gone either way. The 2009 series, the pitchers of record were: NYY: CC, David Robertson and Andy P. For MN: Duensing, Mijares and Pavano. The Twins lost game 2 in 11 after that Phil Cuzzi blown call on Mauer. It is what it is, but I think there have been at least two series where the Twins competed well with less pitching that the teams that beat them out. Why management didn't go after Lee in 2010, that's a head scratcher.

bluedevil101Sep. 28, 1310:40 PM

Santana: The team offered him $20 mil for 4 years- he said no. Hunter: The team offered him a 3 year deal, he wanted 5, so he was gone. Cuddyer and Kubel: The fans wanted them gone. No loss. Gomez: The fans and media portrayed Gomez as a clown like player who would never amount to much. He was 24 when the team let him go. He's now 27 and playing like crazy. He wasn't a high pick by NYM for nothing. Hardy: Talk with Bill Smith about that one. I think Hoey is flipping burgers at BK. Liriano: Started off gang busters here, had the surgery and never recovered for the Twins. I think a significant wake up this year was his off season injury that could easily have ended his career. He's been good, no questioning that. Let's see what happens in the next two years. Ortiz: That goes back to the Kelly era. I'm sure the Twins wished they could have him back. I'm sure there's more guys. I think right now the team is so short on major league players that there is a lack of professionalism in the club house. The Royals beat writers say that adding James Shields changed their club house and helped to move the team forward this year. I just think that until the field roster is upgraded there won't be first rate pitchers willing to come. Other than Mauer, Plouffe is the leading batter among players who've been in the bigs all year...and he's hitting .256.

razzlerSep. 28, 1311:05 PM

it's the loyal minnesota twins' fans that are fretting that gardenhire and anderson will be back next year....

orvestaSep. 28, 1311:36 PM

I have *never* written a 'fire Gardy' comment anywhere. We all know the organization is fielding a minor league team at the MLB level. However, for whatever reasons you want to pick... the team is not responding to existing management and this is now quite stale. It's time for a change. We really cannot get any worse and if we would get worse with a new manager, then it's Ryan's turn to go. If we expect different results while doing the same thing again and again, then we are insane. Thanks for the memories Gardy and good luck.

gatorflSep. 29, 13 3:19 AM

The word is Gardy can come back if he wants to. What else would you expect from a "good 'ol boy network" that exists with Twins management.


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