Growing Minneapolis: The value of transit

  • Article by: Editorial Board , Star Tribune
  • Updated: September 28, 2013 - 5:21 PM

Editorial: All kind of wheels, from buses to light rail to streetcars, are needed to meet the population’s needs.

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akamurphSep. 28, 13 7:00 PM

How about some common sense solutions to these obstacles? Not just throwing more and more money around to "fix" these problems that we don't have (Really? Streetcars?). How about solutions to how citizens use public transport instead of social engineering by the government to get citizens to live around where they put public transport?

jbpaperSep. 28, 13 9:03 PM

If you want to reduce congestion on the freeways, make common sense a prerequisite to getting a job with MnDOT. I've driven in every state but Hawaii and have yet to see a major city with as many sharp curves in their freeways as we have here. If you look at where some of the worst congestion is, it's right before a sharp curve. Some examples 394 at 94, 94 at the Lowry tunnel, 35w at 62 and 94.

They also need to get rid of the "exit only" lanes that really aren't which is something else you don't see in most cities. It just encourages people to race up and cut other drivers off resulting in them having to brake. With the ripple effect, this can cause substantial back ups.

workforit1Sep. 28, 13 9:08 PM

Ha ha... You cant even predict the cost of LTR in today's dollars, what make you think that you can project what Minneapolis will look like in 2040? That is such a far leap that no one can take you seriously. You should have saved this waste of space.

jbpaperSep. 28, 13 9:11 PM

"The growth is great news." ------- Still trying to figure out the editorial board's reasoning on this. They say the city needs to grow it's population in order to pay for public services. They then say they city needs to spend billions of dollars in order to serve those extra residents. If you didn't try growing the city, you wouldn't need the extra money.

FrankLSep. 28, 13 9:27 PM

Why is it when they compare us to other cities, it is always Denver and Portland? What about cities that are geographically similar to us, such as Kansas City, Indianapolis, Oklahoma City or Des Moines? These are more likely the cities we will be competing for jobs and people. Someone who wants to live and start a business in Portland will not be considering Minneapolis.

supervon2Sep. 28, 13 9:43 PM

If you would review history the State passed a law under Perpich that limited Freeways to no more than two lanes between exit and entrance ramps. That's a major reason that 694 and 494 are so screwed up. The only way around that was to build the Lexus lanes and you can see how busy they are-with police pulling over offenders and stopping three lanes of traffic. And, the Met Council purposely delayed the 169 bridge in hopes that people would not move out of the city. Vote Liberal if you want more of this.

exrepublicanSep. 29, 1312:44 AM

As usual, the people who have the least understanding of how transportation and public policy works are the first ones to post all their ideas, all based on their limited suburban world. Job growth in the future will be among young, educated people who want transit, walkable communities, and a good system of parks and trails. They are not interested in the fake, vinyl suburban cul de sac community without sidewalks that so many older people still want to live in. And as those older suburban residents die off and move to the nursing home, communities that do not adapt--Omaha and Kansas City immediately come to mind--will become even more economically depressed than they are now. The Twin Cities, Portland, Denver, Charlotte, Seattle and San Diego are all on the right track to compete for educated residents with heavy-hitters like New York, Chicago and San Francisco, and even some not-so-forward-thinking cities like St. Louis are seeing the trend and moving in the right direction. But if your life's dream is to live on a hobby farm in Stearns County away from people, none of this is going to make any sense to you. P.S., I don't want to spend MY tax dollars on road improvements to your hobby farm!

jbpaperSep. 29, 13 7:06 AM

Like "FrankL," I also wonder what is the infatuation with Portland. Those on the left make it out to be some utopia. I just did a quick google search and found an article in the Oregonian from this past June. It was about a report done by the city auditor. Here is an excerpt from the story:

"In her second evaluation of the city's long-term financial stability, which comes out every two years, Griffin-Valade and her staff notes that unlike comparable cities, Portland continues to spend beyond its means and faces a shaky future as a result."

It did go on to say that the city is currently financially stable but that will change if they keep taking on debt. There was 25 comments on the article, not a single one had anything positive to say about the city's leaders or their spending.

chablis28Sep. 29, 13 8:38 AM

I can't take a bus from the nearby 35W Lakeville bus station to Minneapolis on weekends for shows and dinner but Minneapolis needs BOTH a trolly and buses running on Nicollat mall???? Huh!

chablis28Sep. 29, 13 8:41 AM

I thought we wanted a be a walking society and now they want a trolly to take you 1-10 blocks on Nicollet Mall???? Just got back from walking several miles everyday in central Paris for a week which, by the way, has no trolly...oh no! The Convention Bureau wants the trolly to sell conventions. They're cool but that isn't going to improve transit.


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