Weighing Minnesota's response to mass shootings

  • Article by: SUE ABDERHOLDEN
  • Updated: September 23, 2013 - 7:57 PM

The Minnesota Legislature took some steps to address mental health but more needs to be done.

  • 13
  • Comments

  • Results per page:
jimjimjimjimSep. 23, 13 7:52 PM

And just how would the government know if someone was suffering from mental health issues after they bought a gun? Will they demand yearly mental health checks? Should we make all of our medical records available to the government? What could possibly go wrong with that?

29
10
jdlellis1Sep. 23, 13 8:33 PM

As a discussion baseline, reference Ted Koppel's August 2003 Nightline program "Deadly Business". In summary, liken the billion dollar plus global gun trade to an iceberg where a small portion (legal) is above the water line while the larger amount (illegal) is below the water line. The politically correct crowd will ignore this reality and fight to ban guns, clips, bullets, etc. Politicians will then take the "feel good" legislation approach impacting law abiding citizens while marginally impacting the criminal element. As an alternate approach to ineffective legislation, consider "educating" citizens through gun safety courses. For those who have never done so, recognize that even before weapons are introduced to a class, gun safety courses, emphasize, the law, personal responsibility and safety. For those who will vote a thumbs down, a few thoughts; 1-Chances are you have never entertained the thought or taken a gun safety course. 2-Venture over to Stillwater prison and [safely] speak with the harden criminal to understand first how they prey on the vulnerable and second, how most criminals do not place themselves in harms way. 3-As every mass shooting demonstrates, police, S.W.A.T. Teams, etc. arrive after the fact. in speech, Most politicians limit their gun acceptance to hunting and sport shooting ignoring and speaking to the reality that self-preservation is not just a right in the U.S., it is a right every individual of this earth is entitled.

19
15
SwiftBoatSep. 23, 13 8:35 PM

Take guns away from law abiding citizens, just like Rep Paymar wants to do. Come into your home and take the assault rifle. You don't need one.

9
26
furguson11Sep. 23, 13 9:54 PM

Persons with mental health issues are over-represented in the criminal justice system, but per The Oxford Handbook of Sentencing and Corrections, mental illness is not one of the major criminogenic factors that causes criminal behavior.

9
5
joeljySep. 23, 1310:07 PM

Persons with mental illness are over represented in the criminal justice system because the mental health system has been dismantled. 30 years ago we had state hospitals, group homes, and many more treatment options for adults with mental illness. Those services are gone. Adults with mental illness are mostly charged and jailed for low level crimes, related to homelessness, poor judgement, and sometimes serious symptoms.

26
0
dewarfSep. 23, 1311:57 PM

And Obama says what about the shootings during the past weekend on the south side of Chicago (his home where he so successfully organized)? The man is just an incredibly naive politician. Fix your own problems Mr. President, before attempting to legislate how the rest of the free world lives. The sooner he goes home to Chicago the better America will be. Unfortunately, Chicago will be no better off as their dysfunctional culture will continue.

21
14
ontherecordSep. 24, 13 6:16 AM

dewarf: "Fix your own problems Mr. President, before attempting to legislate how the rest of the free world lives. The sooner he goes home to Chicago the better America will be." First, we cannot legislate "how the rest of the free world lives." Second, Obama has made huge efforts to fix our problems at home, but the Teapublicans just want things to get worse for America until 2016 by blocking most of his initiatives. Finally, the more GOP/TP Senators and congressmen sent packing in 2014, the better off America will be.

13
20
furguson11Sep. 24, 13 6:27 AM

The elements used for risk to recidivate assessment by most of the state probation departments include History of antisocial behavior, Antisocial personality pattern, Antisocial cognition, Antisocial associates, Family and/or marital, School and/or work, Leisure and/or recreation, Substance abuse. The first four factors are the biggest predictors. Developing a antisocial pattern or associates is not the same as having a MH issue. There will always be overlap in the populations and spectacular crime incidents, but I'm reluctant to use these to push social change because it stigmatizes the rest of the population that is dealing proactively with mental health issues.

10
0
jim4848Sep. 24, 13 6:41 AM

"And just how would the government know if someone was suffering from mental health issues after they bought a gun? Will they demand yearly mental health checks?'______ There's the catch 22 of the gun lobbies argument. While the gun lobby is perfectly willing to tell us after someone who kills 10,20 or 30 people was mentally ill. They appear unable to tell us who these people are buying guns that are mentally ill before they kill 10,20 or 30 people. They also are unwilling to take any steps that would identify a gun buyer that is mentally ill.

12
10
fooledmeonceSep. 24, 13 7:18 AM

"A TINY PERCENTAGE?" I think the writer lives in denial, all the big shootings are done by those with mental illness who get thru the system because it's broken and/or no one says anything

14
6

Comment on this story   |  

ADVERTISEMENT

  • about opinion

  • The Opinion section is produced by the Editorial Department to foster discussion about key issues. The Editorial Board represents the institutional voice of the Star Tribune and operates independently of the newsroom.

  • Submit a letter or commentary
Connect with twitterConnect with facebookConnect with Google+Connect with PinterestConnect with PinterestConnect with RssfeedConnect with email newsletters

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT