Hot Dish Politics: Holes in Minnesota gun checks

  • Article by: JIM RAGSDALE , Star Tribune
  • Updated: September 21, 2013 - 8:39 PM

Jim Ragsdale

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cman2500Sep. 21, 13 9:30 PM

I have been arguing for this change for a long time the Information Isn't getting to Law Enforcement nor NICS, fix the system first before legislating further restrictions to my firearms ownership.

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LicoriceSep. 21, 1310:02 PM

Why were these records not sent on?

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badcopperSep. 22, 13 8:10 AM

Gun show at the state fair grounds in October. I plan to visit. Beautiful works of art.

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crystalbaySep. 22, 1312:30 PM

This issue is troublesome in that most people who've been hospitalized are there for clinical depression or PTSD. Having been treated for depression or an anxiety disorder doesn't begin to fall into the category of "dangerous to self or others" required by authorities to report. On the other hand, those with schizophrenia or other major types of true mental illness probably should be kept from gun ownership. And then, there's the issue of 40% of gun sales on the secondary market which sail through with NO background checks. It's also my understanding that domestic abusers can own guns if the victim doesn't file charges (which, out of fear of reprisal, many women don't do). For the hundreds of people suffering from depression to lose this right is purely overkill and unfair, though.

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jd55604Sep. 22, 13 4:23 PM

Let me get this straight. Unless the state of MN sends their state records to the F.B.I.s database our state is unable to locate its own records??? Instead of allowing the state and Feds to collect more and more data on all of us we should be committing these mentally ill people to insane asylums where they belong.

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robdoarSep. 22, 13 4:45 PM

Mr. Ragsdale needs to print a retraction. "The attempt failed after attracting opposition from both the National Rifle Association and mental health advocates." 100% False, The NRA and Gun Owner's Civil Rights Alliance (GOCRA) fully supported Rep. Hillstrom's bill HF 1325 to strengthen data reporting, and testified on behalf of it. The MN Sheriff's association also supported it. If you want to blame someone, blame Rep. Paymar (DFL) for refusing to even HEAR the bill in his committee.

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mnthinkerSep. 22, 13 7:54 PM

@crystalbaby You are reading this incorrectly. Being hospitalized is not disqualifying, nor is being held against your will for 72 hours on a hold. Do you know what? It's because that time is for EVALUATION of a person. A person can be held for 72 hours and then offered an apology as it was the mistake of law enforcement and health care workers initially. As the article says, these are records of people that are COMMITTED. COMMITMENT requires due process in which a person is deemed incompetent of firearm ownership in the courts. I know it is a subtle difference, but it is an important difference that respects other amendmends to the Bill of Rights like the 4th, 5th to say the least. Also worth noting is that the NRA and "gun nuts" SUPPORTED this bill.

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nrabadSep. 23, 1311:18 AM

We constantly show how irresponsible we are with guns. We have a lot of work to do to make this better and still protect the 2nd. All rights have limits.

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jd55604Sep. 23, 13 4:56 PM

nrabad, if a person's rights have government placed limits on them then it's really more of a privilege than a right.

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arspartzSep. 24, 13 1:48 PM

Minnesota's same day voter registration laws have holes.

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