St. Paul teachers reject move to develop Q Comp proposal

  • Article by: Anthony Lonetree , Star Tribune
  • Updated: September 17, 2013 - 9:40 PM

St. Paul educators rejected district’s request to help craft plan to join pay program. District argued that proposal could bring in $9 million.

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allhailfsmSep. 17, 13 6:42 PM

They will not even participate in developing a plan to improve quality? If they participate then they can't holler. Time to bust this union, in my (DFL) opinion.

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badcopperSep. 17, 13 7:06 PM

....because everybody is exactly the same and there us no way in the world to differentiate one teacher from the next......

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gopher68Sep. 17, 13 7:10 PM

Exactly right, badcopper. The only fair way to assess teacher performance is, of course, seniority. Unlike the real world that the rest of us live in.

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denialoSep. 17, 13 7:44 PM

Its for the kids? You mean covering for failing teachers? Nice union you liberals have cooking.

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wplettfanSep. 17, 13 7:58 PM

Good move teachers. You "experts" on here are passing judgement without knowing the intricacies of the issue. Hey gopher68, go teach in front of a class of 34 sixteen year old students who don't want to be there and then see if that is real enough for ya.

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farcicalSep. 17, 13 8:23 PM

Glad to see the regulars jumping in and on top of the SP Teachers Union. Did any of you actually see that the teachers CHOSE NOT TO GET MORE $$$? It has NOTHING to do with seniority or LIFO. Teachers have one job...to teach. Adding more meetings, paperwork, and other costly things really do nothing to improve the frontline (classroom) experience. QComp and other carrots are corporate-based models of evaluation THAT DO NOT WORK!!! Look into how Microsoft, under Ballmer, continues to lag in terms of innovation, productivity, and even profitability. Money is not the best motivator. Economists actually prove this. Don;t believe me? Look up Dan Pink's TEDTalk (even RSA Animated). But some of you will continue to ignore facts because they do not support your preconceived (biased) beliefs. Look into current research reported by Dan Kahan (Yale) and Brendan Nyhan (Dartmouth).

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idiocracy2uSep. 17, 13 8:24 PM

When your child is still living at home when they are 30, remember to thank a union teacher. Heaven forbid we have standards, its all about, pay, benefits, steps and lanes, oh, I forgot, the children. Last argument of a liberal they will hold up a child. Losers.

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stymes01Sep. 17, 13 8:27 PM

Not sure how turning down free money for your own schools is ever a good idea. Everyone else does Q Comp not sure what fear mongering the union is doing but as a union member I do not support this move.

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dflleftSep. 17, 13 8:37 PM

AND this is the same school district that had such an underfunded pension plan the state [we] had to bail it out....now rather than accept needed reforms, they would rather leave 9 million a year on the table. too funny

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jabaer69Sep. 17, 13 9:29 PM

Do all of these teachers always eat at the same restaurant, shop at the same grocery store, go to the same doctor or dentist, use the same mechanic, hire the same babysitter, repair man, house builder? People, (including union members), make so many choices every day that could affect someone else's employment. It's called the real world!

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