Souhan: Frazier's QB approach may have to yield to Vikings reality

  • Article by: JIM SOUHAN , Star Tribune
  • Updated: September 10, 2013 - 9:23 AM

The Vikings coach might have to abandon his patient ways if Christian Ponder continues to struggle.

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metaltesterSep. 9, 13 9:26 PM

"I’d supply a Childress quote on the subject, but it’s still being translated" Funny stuff. Childress never could just answer the question.

jpnIIISep. 9, 13 9:32 PM

IMHO, it's a very tough situation for Ponder. But... that's the way it is in the NFL. Things are going to get very ugly, very fast if this coming Sunday is a repeat of last Sunday...

PoliticalpuckSep. 9, 13 9:52 PM

Job No. 1 of a quarterback in any league at any level: Take care of the football. If Ponder consistently fails to do that, he will not only work himself out of a job, but he will cost his head coach and the coaching staff their livelihood, and perhaps even the general manager his.

dexterjibsSep. 9, 13 9:56 PM

The 49'er coach Harbaugh didn't stay the course and show patience with Alex Smith. He pulled the trigger and went with Kolin Kaepernick and it helped them get to the Super Bowl. As usual, the Viking administration is too stupid to figure this out.

manoliveSep. 9, 13 9:58 PM

Yer dreamin, Jim. Dreamin the same fantasies that 95% of Vikings fans dream of every time they see Ponder overthrow or underthrow a receiver, every time they see him turn the ball over, every time they see him run into a sack, then watch as he blames the team for not playing well. If Ponder doesn't get benched for the numerous times he played horribly last season, then the only way for him to come out of a game is for the opposition to take him out. And that aint gonna happen, because they know keeping Ponder healthy gives them the best chance to win. Let's face it. We're stuck with Ponder for the rest of this season, for better,or more likely, worse.

kenw1952wSep. 9, 1310:06 PM

It's a good article by Souhan but I think it forgets to address a very important point. Ponder is Speilman's boy and perhaps his legacy. Speilman loves the credit he gets for his positive moves and thus far hasn't had the finger pointed at him for a glaring misplaced trade, free agent signing or terrible draft pick. Remember, when Ponder was drafted, Speilman called him "the most NFL ready of all the QB's in the draft" when he reached for him with the 12th overall pick in 2011. Just as Chilly felt attached at the hip to TJoke, Speilman feels attached to Ponder and I think Frazier has "orders from above to play Ponder" come hell or high water.

dentesterSep. 9, 1310:13 PM

Weak-armed quarterbacks should never roll to their left. Ponder consistently does this. Whoever is making that call, whether it's the quarterback or the offensive coordinator should lose their job.

applejeffSep. 9, 1310:17 PM

I'm with everyone else that doesn't care much for Ponder (OK, that's an understatement). But I'm nowhere as convinced as many others that the back-up on the roster right now has shown us anything better. I suppose people could say he didn't get a chance to play with the 1st strigners, nor AP during the preseason. Could be. I'd like to see him get a chance, but I don't hold much hope. It's really sad, because AP is just being wasted on this team. All that aside, did I see some play selection on Sunday that actually took advantage of the threat of AP and 8-9 men in the box? Maybe I'm just makin'g stuff up. And one more thing, my previous comment about AP notwithstanding, and I'm sure much of it is because we don't have a air threat, but would I be correct in pointing out that AP has more rushes for negative yardage than any back in the league? In history?

whatever61Sep. 9, 1310:19 PM

Alex smith was available to the Vikings. He would have instantly made the Vikings a threat to win every week. That's the move that should have been made. And Jim, take a look at Ponder's stats the last four games. Only the GB game were they above average.

goldengoph3rSep. 9, 1310:23 PM

In year 3, Ponder is still careless with the football. If he had a big arm, he could make spectacular plays to compensate for his carelessness, much like Favre did early in his career. Ponder, unfortunately, has a noodle arm, and always will. Add to that a vain peacock of a GM and a coach too deferential to cross him, and you have the 2013 Vikings--a team that will sacrifice the season to continue the Ponder Audition.


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