Souhan: At QB, Packers try to be great while Vikings would settle for good

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  • Updated: August 31, 2013 - 6:17 PM

The differences between the Vikings and Packers extend beyond color schemes and stadia, hometown skylines and Super Bowl results.

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PoliticalpuckAug. 31, 13 8:21 PM

Like many other members of the media, Ponder once again suffers the bite of a journalist a little too in love with the cadence of his own words, a journalist who is quick to join the flock of shrill and immature conclusions made by media ravens roosting on the wire, flapping their wings and jaws in near-total agreement that Ponder can't play. What crap. Just keep winning football games, Christan. Nothing else matters.

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reeksonSep. 1, 1312:06 AM

Ponder didn't win a single game last year. It was all Harvin in the first half, and Peterson in the second. Ponder has yet to be the one to win the game. When, and if, he does, then you can say 'keep winning football games, Christian.'

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cosmocratSep. 1, 1312:38 AM

This is a diatribe if I ever read one. This article lacks any form of context, apples to orange comparison if ever there was one. Rodgers second year was spent on the bench, Rodgers third year was spent on the bench. His forth year was decent not great. Hey let's compare Rodgers career achievements to Joe Montana's at this point and declare the best Quaerterback, makes as much sense. And how often has the best QB won the Super Bowl?

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purplewvSep. 1, 13 6:38 AM

Strange article. It would seem that you are comparing one of the NFL's elite QB's, who was drafted in 2005, with a player that is only going into his 3rd season, and 2nd as a full time starter. If I can remember correctly, Rogers, was still a back-up in his 3rd season. The Packers were very fortunate to have their 2005 1st round pick pan out. There are only a hand full of "Elite" QB's in the league. Rogers, Brady, Brees, are only a few that can consistently drive their teams downfield, score points, without a decent running game. I don't know if Ponder will ever be a Rogers, but know that at season 3 he is in his 2nd year as a starter, which is farther along than Rogers was at that point. You might as well pick a running back who was drafted last year, and compare him with Adrian Peterson. Very strange article. GO VIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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dcharles3Sep. 1, 13 7:12 AM

agree with the comments above about comparing ponder in his third year to Rogers who was on the bench and hadn't played a snap during his first three. Bud Grant said that it takes time to make a great QB and the greatest of those developed in their fourth year or beyond. Some of those who played were not good their first three years and blossomed in their fourth year yet were already counting Pounder out who has shown glimpses and stats of great games, like his final four of the season last year?

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vlombardySep. 1, 13 8:51 AM

Yup, Ponder was THE GUY the last 4 wins of the season in '12: 1 TD and 1 interception, with a passer rating below 84 in 3 of them. Only in the last game did he shine, when the Packers had clinched the division, and it was to their advantage to have the Vikings face them in the playoffs instead of the Bears. As a Packers fan, I'm glad he's the guy in Minnesota. One less team to be worried about.

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komencentzSep. 1, 13 9:39 AM

Ponder is terrible, period. Comparing him to Rodgers may be arbitrary, but it doesn't hide the fact that Rodgers makes people around him better, while Ponder doesn't. Any one of you who think Ponder is the answer should take off the rose-colored glasses. He was average, at best, in college, and wasn't even the most NFL-ready, as they would like you to believe. That designation belongs to Dalton, who is proving it thus far. I'm a huge Vikes fan, but I'm also a realist, and drafting Ponder instead of Dalton will be Speilman's biggest gaffe.

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kimorenSep. 1, 13 9:43 AM

Good article, I thought. Some of the criticisms fall flat because it was appropriately tentative. It acknowledges Ponder's inconsistency to date, while recognizing possibilities of his improvement.

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vikeforlifeSep. 1, 1310:05 AM

Vikes were in a bad postion in Ponder's draft because everyone knew they were going to take a QB and there were many other teams looking for Qb's. The jury is still out on Newton but at this point I would rather have Ponder than Gabbert or Locker the other two Qb's who were picked in front of him. The Redskins McNabb experiment had blown up and they were supposedly interest in Ponder and drafted after the Vikes. The Vikes were faced with taking the best Qb on their board or not getting a Qb in the 1st round. And by the way no QB in that draft class compares to Rodgers. I also disagree that the Vikes have given Ponder a bunch of help. They have finally updated the wr corp the an NFL level and now we can see what the passing attack can do. The offensive line is superior in the run game but as pass protecters they need some improvement. This is a telling year for Ponder and I personally hope he is up for it. I don't know why any true fan would not wish for him to do well.

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ennuiathonSep. 1, 1311:00 AM

Aaron Rogers was on the bench for a couple of years spelling Brett Favre and was not an immediate success. I guess I don't see Ponder as being a quarterback who can consistently hit the deep pass and that probably won't change, however, he's continuing to develop in his ability to read and recognize defenses. Noone wants to see the Vikes lose enough games to have a shot at a quarterback like Luck. Go Ponder.

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