Minneapolis voting system unfairly bashed

  • Article by: Javier Morillo and Richard Carlbom
  • Updated: August 12, 2013 - 7:37 PM

Commentary about the ranked choice voting method seemed to assume dimwittedness.

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ginny6Aug. 12, 13 7:41 PM

A primary and a general election are preferable. Having 12 people on the general election ballot does not allow for pointed debate of the issues.

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supervon2Aug. 12, 13 8:23 PM

A system that allows DFL to be elected by loading the candidates with one party majority makes it OK

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occam73Aug. 12, 13 9:58 PM

If Jacobs and Miller were using the comments sections of Star Tribune articles to measure the intellect of the populace, I could almost understand their fears about RCV. As it is, Jacobs is shopping a Chicken Little analysis of the voting system that looks past positive data to draw the conclusions he always intended to draw.

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briechersAug. 13, 13 7:53 AM

Eliminating primaries is the part that I find most troubling about RCV. The parties should produce their best candidates...they could use RCV to do that if they like. Use RCV for the general election. It will be at least slightly easier to lead for the Governor who has had the begrudging support of 55 or 60% of the voters rather than knowing that 55% voted for someone else and that they likely would not have been elected using RCV.

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RankenFyleAug. 13, 13 8:57 AM

In a campaign environment dominated by unknown sources of funding, assisted by the likes of the Citizens United decision, ranked choice voting is the perfect vehicle for obscuring the direct path from voter to candidate. You have the primary to vet the candidates, and then you have the general election; the system works. Ranked choice voting is a Rube Goldberg solution for a problem that doesn't exist. Now if you want to address a problem worth solving, follow the money.

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spicebearAug. 13, 13 9:16 AM

The best feature of RCV is that it allows more people to cast some votes for candidates that actually FIT their worldview. It is very clear that the 2 legacy major parties need a push back to reality, pragmatism and relevance... A majority of Americans now agree that neither major party "represents" them (you can google that). By bypassing the primary/caucus system, you force parties and candidates to consider ALL the people from the get-go rather than have to play to a stunted group of party activists.

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robin37Aug. 13, 1310:34 AM

Great commentary, Javier and Richard. Perhaps if we all hold Jacobs accountable every time he says something uninformed about RCV, he'll stop, or news outlets will stop treating him as a neutral voice on the subject. RT "briechers": your point doesn't make sense, because the primary that RCV replaced in Minneapolis is *nonpartisan.* It has nothing to do with parties choosing their candidates. They are still free to do so, and have: the DFL has endorsed in 10 Council races, the Greens in 5, etc. If and when we use RCV at the state level, it will be entirely compatible with the *partisan* primary used at that level.

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pumiceAug. 13, 1311:13 AM

Re: "Eliminating primaries is the part that I find most troubling about RCV." Turn-out for primaries is even more deplorable than turn-out for general elections. From my experience as an election judge, ranked choice voting can't possibly be more confusing for voters than the prohibition on splitting one's ballot.

If you want candidate selection input from the get-go, by the way, attend your precinct caucus. Then get out and work for your candidate so s/he will be everyone's first choice.

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davehougAug. 13, 1312:02 PM

Still not seeing why letting the person with the most votes win is evil. RCV picking a majority winner is as false as claiming one more round would pick a unaminous winner.

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elmore1Aug. 13, 13 1:35 PM

nice to see one area of our state trying to modernize the voting process.

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