Apple Valley, state at odds over Flagstaff speed limit

  • Article by: Laurie Blake , Star Tribune
  • Updated: August 5, 2013 - 7:31 AM

 

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tiernetsolutionsAug. 4, 1310:36 AM

Lets pull all the arguments for this article and apply them to the ridiculous speed limit on 35E into downtown St Paul.

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MorgAug. 4, 1311:45 AM

For those who value any sort of accuracy, editing or research in their reporting, Flagstaff Ave. is nowhere near Apple Valley High School.

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MorgAug. 4, 1311:54 AM

And sorry to nit pick here, but it has had a full south connection into Lakeville forever. It was extended from 147th St. northeast of the Menards in Apple Valley north to connect to EASTVIEW High School in Apple Valley. So, it connected Apple Valley to....Apple Valley. Lakeville has nothing to do with this. Nor does Apple Valley High School.

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bcarefulAug. 4, 1311:22 PM

The article needs some major cleanup: The high school at issue is Eastview, not Apple Valley. Apple Valley HS is several miles west on Hayes Ave.

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ssweigertAug. 5, 13 8:31 AM

“What the majority of drivers consider to be reasonable, typically is reasonable,” which is why MnDOT takes samples, Erickson said. “If you set a speed limit unreasonably low, no one follows it. … Usually the only way you can coerce a driver to drive slower than what they think is reasonable is intensive police presence.” Which is why the speed limit on 35E heading south from St. Paul should be 55mph. The road is engineered for that speed, regardless of what they claim.

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jcwconsultAug. 6, 13 3:53 PM

Facts: 1) Posted limits have almost no effect on actual travel speeds (+ or - 3 mph) 2) A posted 30 would be the 3rd percentile speed with 97% defined as violators. This is idiotic. 3) IF safety is the goal for local officials, as it seems to be for the MN Dept. of Transportation, the limit is set at the 85th percentile speed of free flowing traffic. In this case, that number almost certainly rounds to 40 mph per the study. 4) If local officials succeed in posting 30, two things will happen: A) safety will be lower and B) the area will be vicious speed trap for $$$. See our website for the science behind the safest 85th percentile speed limits and be sure to read the Michigan State Police item in the Articles link in the speed limits section. That is the truth of how it works, though many people find it to be counter-intuitive. James C. Walker, Life Member-National Motorists Association

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