NSA acknowledges its '3 hops' get millions of Americans' phone records, not just terrorists

  • Article by: MATT APUZZO , Associated Press
  • Updated: July 31, 2013 - 5:25 PM

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's national security team acknowledged for the first time Wednesday that, when investigating one suspected terrorist, it can read and store the phone records of millions of Americans.

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brokenclockJul. 31, 1311:45 AM

For once, Senator Feinstein and I agree on something. This wholesale collection of data from everybody and everything has to be reined in. The potential for abuse and mis-use is enormous, especially with an outlaw administration like this one. We've already seen tax records on political opponents leaked during the 2012 election cycle. How long until their emails and phone calls show up in the public realm? The irony is that the bad guys quit using these monitored venues years ago. Do you think they plan their actions on GoDaddy and Gmail? They use encryption, steganography, private off-shore servers, throw away cell phones, couriers, cut outs, dead drops and all the other tricks of the trade to avoid detection. Despite NSA assurances that they have stopped "numerous" plots, I am more concerned about becoming a victim of the post-9/11 police surveillance state than I am a terrorist attack.

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bblheadJul. 31, 1312:45 PM

Yes, we want some semblance of security, but not at the expense of our constitution. No government agency should have carte blanche to do as they see fit. This is not unlike the the old KGB or GRU in the Soviet Union. There needs to be some accountability on the part of government. Furthermore, how many different intelligence gathering branches do we need? FBI? CIA? NSA? DHLS?

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smeeagain2Jul. 31, 1312:46 PM

Secret courts authorizing secret surveillance and people being disappeared, rendered and held without announced cause or counsel. And there hasn't been a reasonable Supreme Court review because it is all too secret to be revealed, even to the court. Nope, no abuse of the Constitution here. Move along, nothing to see.

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EleanoreJul. 31, 1312:50 PM

Read the constitution, there are your limitations. This isn't rocket science.

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anewmanJul. 31, 13 1:31 PM

"The Obama administration says phone records are the only records being collecting in bulk under that law..." Based on the Guardian's coverage, that's an out-and-out lie unless it's an effort to be clever by suggesting that everything else being collected is authorized by other laws. At any rate, it's a lot...virtually every form of electronic data available about us.

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dregstudiosJul. 31, 13 4:35 PM

The dystopian fantasies of yesteryear are now a reality. We’ve allowed the coming of an age where the civil liberties our forefathers fought so hard for are being eroded by the day. Freedom of Press, Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Assembly are mere ghostly images of their original intent. We’ve woken up to an Orwellian Society of Fear where anyone is at the mercy of being labeled a terrorist for standing up for rights we took for granted just over a decade ago. Read about how we’re waging war against ourselves at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2011/09/living-in-society-of-fear-ten-years.html

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