Twins' situational hitting remains a sore spot

  • Article by: La VELLE E. NEAL III , Star Tribune
  • Updated: July 5, 2013 - 11:33 PM


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apologistJul. 5, 1311:32 PM

29 year old rookie Chris Collobello will save them! Where's Terry Tiffee and Jason Tyner?

BallFourJul. 6, 1312:24 AM

In '08 there was blogosphere wide (read: Minnesota fantasy league players) outcry to free Randy Ruiz, 30, from Rochester. He was 17-68-.320 in 456 ABs. Our boy Chris is younger, and he's 21-67-.359. In 327. You'd think the bloggers might even appear at Target to demand his promotion.

downsideupJul. 6, 1312:24 AM

So many people wanted Vavra gone last year. Well he is gone. And the big kicker is the people who wanted him gone wanted Bruno up as hitting coach NOW! Well Bruno is here, and it's about the same. And Bruno worked with a lot of the young guys for a year inAAAA ball last year. Kind leans toward the bad farm system the Billy Smith left in his wake. It's a talent issue people, not a coaching issue.

dakotamike99Jul. 6, 13 7:13 AM

There has certainly been a dearth of key hitting associated with this team for many seasons. Blaming or not blaming the hitting coach is just another attempt to divert the attention away from the manager who has not done his job any better than the players. Girardi did a good job of putting pressure on the Twins and helped create a number of productive at bats for the Yankees. Madden will take Gardenhire apart once again. This story has played out for years, there's much more to managing than filling out the lineup card and waddling out to the mound five times a game.

stlynnJul. 6, 13 9:16 AM

Not only does the situational hitting "remain a sore spot" it is non-existent. We are slow on the bases, not hitting for power, not hitting in critical spots, pitching to contact that allows other teams to take advantage and score runs. What's really discouraging is that the veterans on the club (the M & M boys in particular, Josh Willingham, Kevin Correia, Mike Pelfrey) are not able to come through in any ( okay, many) situations. The rest of the team seems to be composed of high round draft picks who have shown little, if any, talent to deliver consistently at the major league level. I sometimes wonder if the messages that the team gets from coaching staff are inconsistent. Gardy has expectations that the young players will just know things and then publically chastises them when they do not do the right thing. I thought his job was to coach. Part of me feels that Gardy is showing a lack of interest or is maybe "burned out" after the last couple of seasons. Or maybe he has become too comfortable with losing....

downsideupJul. 6, 13 2:33 PM

Here's a good way to assess a managerial/coaching issue vs. a talent issue.: how many players on the Twins roster would make the starting lineup of the teams that are beating them?

BallFourJul. 6, 13 3:21 PM

Blaming the hitting coach was fine when it was a guy with no MLB track record and who wasn't a darling of the fans. Now that the same people who want to fire Gardenhire are saddled with their choice of hitting coach, they don't want to admit that the hitting coach wasn't the problem, nor do they want to admit they were wrong to think Brunansky would elevate the offense. But instead they blame the players or the manager. Be great if these second guessers admitted they were wrong, but they just keep shifting blame rather than admit their ignorance of the game. This is so simple: 95 percent of commenters actually thought Danny Valencia was a talent. They won't admit that now. That's Ok. You know who you are. And if you failed to properly assess that guy, you certainly shouldn't be deciding the merits of coaches or managers.

BallFourJul. 6, 13 3:32 PM

Gardenhire is 22-28 vs, Madden [SIC]. Not exactly tearing him apart, assuming one thinks it's about the managers.

meegwichJul. 6, 13 4:04 PM

dakota@ your'e absolutely correct in assessing Joe Maddon and Gardo. Aside from the first year Maddon took over his record against Gardo is 27-16. I'd consider that taking him apart. The reigning "Stats Queen" likes to skew them to make a point.

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