Facebook, Microsoft says they have new permission to talk about government's user surveillance

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  • Updated: June 15, 2013 - 2:05 AM

SAN FRANCISCO — Facebook and Microsoft Corp. representatives said Friday night that after negotiations with national security officials their companies have been given permission to make new but still very limited revelations about government orders to turn over user data.

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bosshogJun. 15, 13 1:47 AM

This is bogus. The question is how many NSA requests these companies have received not local and state government requests which they have always been able to reveal info about. These number include ALL government requests so it is impossible to determine how many NSA requests they have received. They also can't deny NSA requests unlike the local and state government requests.

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darkelfJun. 15, 13 2:23 AM

How's that 'open and transparent' thing working out?

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jcinmnJun. 15, 13 7:48 AM

bosshog "The question is how many NSA requests these companies have received not local and state government requests which they have always been able to reveal info about. These number include ALL government requests so it is impossible to determine how many NSA requests they have received.... They also can't deny NSA requests unlike the local and state government requests" According to Facebook they received between 9,000 and 10,000 request from ALL agencies concerning the acounts of between 18,000 and 19,000 users. It seems like a small percentage of ALL Facebook users which would mean that the NSA's requests would be for an even smaller percentage. Microsoft's total of 6-7,000 requests on a larger 31-32000 accounts reflects an even smaller percentage. In other words they are not monitoring everybody's account. The internet is the world's Main Street and, if you start acting weird, you're going to draw attention.

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bosshogJun. 15, 13 8:42 AM

@ jcinmn - So as long as it is a "small" number of people that the government can spy on "legally" it is okay? Furthermore this is only for data already on their servers. Other data in route is already being monitored (emails, chats, etc) There was an article a month or so ago that the government was upset that the Messages app on iOS used encryption that they were unable to decipher.

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jcinmnJul. 7, 13 5:15 PM

bosshog "The question is how many NSA requests these companies have received not local and state government requests which they have always been able to reveal info about. These number include ALL government requests so it is impossible to determine how many NSA requests they have received.... They also can't deny NSA requests unlike the local and state government requests" According to Facebook they received between 9,000 and 10,000 request from ALL agencies concerning the acounts of between 18,000 and 19,000 users. It seems like a small percentage of ALL Facebook users which would mean that the NSA's requests would be for an even smaller percentage. Microsoft's total of 6-7,000 requests on a larger 31-32000 accounts reflects an even smaller percentage. In other words they are not monitoring everybody's account. The internet is the world's Main Street and, if you start acting weird, you're going to draw attention.

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