Minnesota child care labor move overreaches

  • Article by: Tim Penny, Tom Horner
  • Updated: April 20, 2013 - 6:21 PM

Minnesota, like Wisconsin, is going too far. Just the other direction.

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pumiceApr. 20, 1310:48 PM

From the article: "The effort is largely designed to empower child-care [and personal-care] providers to lobby for larger government subsidies. Care providers forming an association to lobby for higher government payments — as others with shared interests have done — is one thing. But sanctioning a union to lobby for higher payments from government is a different matter. Unions are the vehicles for workers to gain influence in negotiations with their employers. Child-care operators are self-employed, small-business owners. By what stretch of linguistics do they become workers in need of a union?" Beginning at the end: Self-employed, small-business owners are frequently one-person shops. The owner of the small, child-care operation is the worker. The best way to lobby for recognition of the true market value of the service provided is to form a union. In that regard, child-care operators need look no farther for inspiration than to Chambers of Commerce.

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pumiceApr. 20, 1310:56 PM

From the article: "There are important issues involving child care that should be resolved through public policy, including standards of care, safety and access for low-income families." Coupla things: (1) Earning an equitable day's pay for a valuable day's work is another important issue. (2) Other developed nations provide generous parental leave benefits as a matter of equity and child-care services as a component of early education programs.

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arspartzApr. 21, 1312:59 AM

e highly regarded Pew Center on the States last year (before Wisconsin’s new law took effect) said Wisconsin was the only state to earn a “solid performer” ranking from funding of both its pensions and health care obligations.

If the union members were not paying into the insurance and pension funds, who was financing this "solid performer" rating? Answer: The taxpayers. Requiring those who got the benefit need to be paying the bill.

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brucelieApr. 21, 13 7:48 AM

Rescinding massive pension, health benefit and salary privileges to government employees and their union officials is not overreach, it is the right response to years of public union manipulation of elected officials that have made our economy uncompetitive and in a long term slow growth trajectory.

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tandabuss1Apr. 21, 13 7:48 AM

I find this a very thoughtful piece. Not sure which parts I buy, but I'm glad the authors took the time to craft this piece.

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katnltdApr. 21, 13 1:28 PM

Horner - if it wasn't for your mealy-mouthed intrusion into the Governor's race - we wouldn't have Governor Goofy to deal with. Thanks a lot PAL!

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pumiceApr. 21, 13 2:55 PM

Re: "If the union members were not paying into the insurance and pension funds, who was financing this 'solid performer' rating? Answer: The taxpayers. Requiring those who got the benefit need to be paying the bill." So then, arspartz, how much are you willing to compensate firefighters (who face injury and death when they rush toward a house fire or a fire at an ammonia storage plant) so they can pay the bill for their insurance and pension funds? How much are you willing to compensate police officers (who face injury and death when they rush to apprehend criminals or terrorists) so they can pay the bill for their insurance and pension funds? How much are you willing to compensate military personnel (who face injury and death to protect and defend the nation) so they can pay the bill for their insurance and pension funds?

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davehougApr. 21, 13 9:56 PM

BIG difference between being a member of a VOLUNTARY chamber of commerce and a REQUIRED member of a union to be in a trade.

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pumiceApr. 21, 1311:18 PM

Re: "BIG difference between being a member of a VOLUNTARY chamber of commerce and a REQUIRED member of a union to be in a trade." Yep, BIG difference, davehoug! The Chamber was the largest outside spending group in 2010's midterms--$32 million in ad buys alone. In 2012 the US Chamber invested in the Presidential race, 50 House races and eight Senate races. Full disclosure compels .... Oops! the Chamber's contributors don't believe in full disclosure. But speaking of dues: Dow Chemical ($1,648,750); News Corp ($1 million). Wait a minute... News Corp??? Rupert Murdoch's media outlet??????

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davehougApr. 22, 1311:39 AM

pumice: My point was 'if you belong in X business, you now MUST be a union member' is a bad public policy. Would it be a good idea for 51% of factory owners to force the other 49% of factory owners into a union to advocate for government laws the 51% want????

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