Hartman: Vikings, eyeing expansion, buy building near Winter Park

  • Article by: SID HARTMAN , Star Tribune
  • Updated: April 18, 2013 - 12:04 PM

The site, purchased from the Twins owners, is expected to be used for a new or expanded training base.

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klondikekidApr. 17, 1311:52 PM

"One thing I know for sure. If something was passed that would eliminate the building of the stadium, Los Angeles would have a team overnight"... I bet you were equally assured that the electronic tabs would provide the revenues promised. Look Sid, the people elected to serve in St. Paul represent the people of Minnesota. In the haste to get the financing component of the stadium done, too few bothered to apply what we would hope to be basic fiduciary responsibilities. Their obligation is NOT to the Wilfs alone; it is to the people of Minnesota. That they have to expend the time necessary to try and do what should have been done initially should not be the subject of your derision or others.

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morimotoApr. 18, 13 5:49 AM

I'd love to put some money into these pull tabs. Problem is, I have no idea where the heck they are to be found...

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LMHANSONApr. 18, 13 7:46 AM

How much of that $477 million Vikings "contribution" is actually coming from the Vikings themselves? Between the NFL "loan" and the potential naming rights, and potential premium seat licenses, the Wilfs will not be contributing much of anything, if anything, from their own pockets. So its pretty preposterous to say the Wilfs are not happy with the recent developments at the legislature. How can anyone who has been given a public handout of $500+ million not be happy? The Wilfs know they got one heck of a deal and robbed the taxpayers of Minnesota. And as far as LA is concerned, the NFL would have had a team, or two, in LA by now if they really wanted to. It's more than obvious the NFL is using the LA market as leverage against cities with current NFL teams. We all know the NFL will probably expand to LA in the future so that the owners and the league can profit even more with the expansion fees. Not to mention, most if not all, other current teams will have upgraded facilities increasing the revenue for the league.

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irelandguyApr. 18, 13 8:00 AM

How much will this cost the taxpayers? Mr Hartmann, why don't you jump on the airwaves and insist the taxpayers ante up for Mr. Wilfs' building purchase?

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hitch22Apr. 18, 13 8:24 AM

Sid and his prophesies about what would happen if the public didn't gift the local team hundreds of millions of dollars... There hasn't been a stadium deal that Sid wasn't in favor of, it is actually sort of embarrassing. The legislature should use this opportunity to change the terms of the deal. They were beaten down last time and if they were good at their jobs they would want to go back to the table.

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timandtiaApr. 18, 1310:29 AM

In regards to the Twins in this section. I just got done reading about the Twins already have to many outfielders. I wonder what these guys who are in the minors are going to do. I still think that the Twins have drafted wrong - they need pitchers, not outfielders.

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irelandguyApr. 18, 1311:07 AM

You are correct, hitch22. There hasn't been one billionaire's stadium that Mr. Hartman hasn't advocated putting on the backs of taxpayers. His employers, the StarTrib and WCCO Radio, are equally at fault for giving him an unfettered platform for his biased, self-serving advocacy. The damage that has been done to the finanical health of our communities as a result cannot be precisley calculated - but is certainly in excess of $1 billion dollars.

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paulkramer54Apr. 18, 1311:28 AM

I've probably watched every Viking and Gopher Football game for the last 40 years. Let the Vikings go, the heck with them. The Gophers need the the energy and support. Let's put these assets into "Our Team".

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rshacklefordApr. 18, 1311:43 AM

(Sid the comedian said): "One thing I know for sure. If something was passed that would eliminate the building of the stadium, Los Angeles would have a team overnight." ---- That was a good one! I thought no one else was more naive than Dayton. Sid has proven that belief to be wrong. The NFL doesn't send Goodell to beg for money and tell lie after lie (on TV no less) unless it has painted itself into a corner. The 5.3 million taxpayers of this state had around 10 different solid and undeniable facts to use as make-Wilf-pay-for-it leverage against the billionaire and the legislature failed the people (Wilf's empty threat to move was in the top 3). Did Sid not hear about the Cubs ownership paying for a RENOVATION of their stadium and that the renovation will not cost those taxpayers ONE DIME?

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truehomerApr. 18, 1311:44 AM

I do not agree with the sentiment to let the Vikings go and just stick with the Gophers. Both can prosper,like Madison and Green Bay. As the Gophers improve,the stands will fill up.

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