St. Thomas Academy's ejection from Classic Suburban Conference on hold

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  • Updated: April 17, 2013 - 12:24 AM

The Classic Suburban Conference plans to boot the Cadets but first must amend its constitution to do so.

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oldmotorheadApr. 16, 13 1:40 PM

All the private schools should be put in their own conference; they don't play by the same rules as public schools.

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tom322Apr. 16, 13 1:51 PM

The enrollment for Saint Thomas is actually just over 500 students in grades 9-12, averaging approximately 130 students per grade. The MSHSL measure for enrollment for single-gender schools is doubled-up to determine classification.

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roosterroustApr. 16, 13 2:19 PM

Oldmotorhead...What rules do you speak of? (and don't say something unless you know it to be a fact!) I love it when I hear people say private schools give scholarships to get all the stud athletes but never...not even once has someone proved it! laughable. Veldman proved this is more to do about public school jealousy when he said its because of free school lunches! Huh???

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Zekeman10Apr. 16, 13 3:45 PM

roosterroust is correct, and the next thing out of motor's mouth is going to be the word recruiting. Lots of kids want to go to St. Thomas or Hill-Murray for hockey because they are good already - they don't need to recruit; like Duke in NCAA basketball or Notre Dame in football - - the past success of the school means you recruit yourself to that school. Taxpayer money funds stuff like practice bubbles at Eden Prairie and Veteran's field for baseball in Minnetonka - no taxpayer money goes to private schools and their facilities - it's all donor-driven funding. Some of that donor funding is really good, but it's not a guarantee like the taxpayer money. And even if you put them all in one conference, when it comes to the state tourneys, no matter the sport, the privates will be a factor to be dealt with. You can't run and hide.

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sdkali07Apr. 16, 13 4:04 PM

How can you expect students at CSC member schools to compete when their administrator's cant even follow the directions they themselves wrote? Embarrassing incompetence.

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stevee952Apr. 16, 13 4:46 PM

The "private school recruiting" line is laughable. They don't recruit. Not all the kids that go to private schools come from wealthy families. I went to Hill-Murray in the 80s, grew up poor on the East Side of St Paul. I played sports, but not hockey. My mom put me there and worked her *** off to afford tuition because it's a better, safer school. I'm thankful every day of my adult life that she could figure out how to get me there. As for today's h.s. sports, thanks to open enrollment you have kids playing football for Eden Prairie and Mtka, basketball for Hopkins, and they don't all live in those cities. Kids can go to any school they wish.

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minneg56Apr. 16, 13 7:53 PM

Stevee952- I like your story. There are tons of kids over the history of STA whose parents also have done the same as your mom. And the kids themselves were on the 'work program' too. But of course it's easier for some folks to just defer to the stereotype that everyone one who goes to an HM, STA etal was brought up on easy street with a pair of silver spoons and a gold lunch box and just had to 'get born' to succeed. ZEKEMAN10 puts it right with donors and facilites. But further, its grateful alums of all means - not just the wealthy ones- who give back to these schools to keep tuition within reach. Need based assistance can then be awarded to pass this opportunity to those who came from 'more moderate means' -such as the minneg's of the world. As for recruiting? Kids now start in the private schools in SEVENTH GRADE! You'd have be clairvoyant to indentify a stud athlete as a FIFTH or SIXTH GRADER- and then convince their parents to make the finacial committment at whatever level they could for the next 6 years BEFORE college. Anyone who can do that? Then please give me your numbers for tomorrow nights lottery.

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mnrunner89Apr. 16, 1310:20 PM

This is sad to see schools try to get rid of their best competition in the conference in order to win rather than work harder or make changes themselves to get better and embrace the competition. Same thing happened in Lake Conference when MSHSL tried to add the old Class Lake Conference schools to it and everyone except for EP fled and formed a new conference so they could win. When I was in high school I enjoyed competing against some of the best teams in the state in the conference and section my school was in and did not enjoy meets (I did cc/alpine ski/track) as much that had lower competition. Everyone pushed themselves to be better b/c of the high level of competition in our conference. I have never really taken as much pride in easy wins against weaker competition compared to a hard fought battle against the best. I don't remember all the easy races I won, but I do remember those races against the best even though they resulted in fewer wins (but they did result in my best times!) I am not totally sure I ever would have been as fast or won a state championship like I did had our coaches scheduled meets that were easy wins and dodged the good competition we regularly competed against. Competing with the best helped me get to a DI school for my top sport, while winning a conference title against lower competition is not going to help anyone get there. I feel bad for the good athletes at the other schools in CSC that will be missing out on playing one of the best Class A schools in the state for certain sports if/when they kick STA out.

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elitescoutApr. 17, 13 6:47 AM

I love how the people from private schools claim that they are on a equal playing field with the public schools. Is it by sheer luck that CDH, STA,HM, ect. are in the state tourneys consistently? How is it possible that a school that enrolls 500 kids, beats schools 2 or 3 times in size? Can and do they recruit or give scholarships? YES! Don't sit there and tell me that some of these kids parents have that kind of money to spend on tuition. When it comes to "free and reduced", that is something that does NOT exist in private schools. I am friends with 2 head football coaches at schools on opposite sides of the metro, that both have more than 1/2 of the kids enrolled on "free and reduced". I would love to see STA try to operate with the demographic issues that public schools do. As for the comment on EP's taxpayer paid indoor practice facility...... a large chunk of that money was fund raised and most all of the public facilities are rented to other sports and schools to create revenue (they are money makers for those districts). EVERY private school should have to compete in the highest class available and they should all be in the same conference.

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honeybooApr. 17, 13 8:23 AM

This was a smart move. The larger point is that the privates and the publics are not peers in any sense of the word. Let them meet at Districts and State, otherwise keep the two separate during the regular season. The problem for STA is that they live in mortal fear of scheduling TG and Cretin. She same with Benilde. Their trophy cases would be empty if they scheduled true peers.

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