St. Paul Chamber Orchestra union rejects latest offer

  • Article by: Graydon Royce , Star Tribune
  • Updated: April 1, 2013 - 9:58 PM

In a nonbinding vote, musicians said no to latest offer.

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tcatheartApr. 1, 1310:07 PM

Really? They rejected an offer of $60,000 and a retirement package? That's twice as much money as most people make in a year, to play a musical instrument. I don't doubt they are very good at what they do, but lets be realistic. That is a lot of money to provide a little entertainment.

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sallee123Apr. 1, 1310:35 PM

I guess after five months of being locked out they don't really need the job. I bet there's lots of fresh talent that would love to work for the terms of the contract they just rejected.

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mchristiApr. 1, 1311:22 PM

I'm supporting the musicians here, but I also think that the American Federation of Musicians needs to get out of the way and let the local musicians negotiate on this contract. It appears that the national union is getting in the way with their hangup about electronic media terms. If they want a say, work through the local union and help get the musicians back to playing.

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teddygApr. 2, 1312:23 AM

The symphonic musician market is a global one and those at tier 1 orchestras globally make around $100k+. If the Board wants SPCO to evolve to a tier 2 regional orchestra with lower grade musicians, fine. But don't expect to sell alot of tickets - because the local concert goers are used to better.

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comment229Apr. 2, 13 5:12 AM

I understand both sides of this issue, and lean towards one side; but think I will wait for the financial investigation results before I take a definite stand on this. Why is the audit taking so long?

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supervon2Apr. 2, 13 5:33 AM

It is obvious that the musicians really don't need the work. You have to wonder how many really good musicians are lining up to take their place? 60K for 20/hours/wk and 2 evening gigs plus free food and wine. How many can suffer with THAT?

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parker0910Apr. 2, 13 7:34 AM

@teddyg. If the "local" concert goer expects better then they should be willing to pay a ticket price that reflects their expectation. I would be willing to wager fewer tickets would be sold if those paying to see the concerts actually had to pay for what they want.

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lee4713Apr. 2, 13 7:59 AM

It is obvious that "management" plays by their own rules. They were informed of the issue with digital rights months ago and yet are using that to spin it as a musician "hangup". These rights must be negotiated at a national level because this is a brand-new issue. Oh, and I bet that the musicians would like to know where the "free food and wine" was all this time, and they would also be surprised about the "two evenings per week and 20 hrs". Many concerts are played Thurs through Sunday. Also, rehearsal takes up more time, and practice even more. But evidently this is something that many on this board can't comprehend - the pursuit of total excellence.

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fordtudorApr. 2, 13 9:01 AM

These reports are very sad. Minnesota truly has had a continuing world class symphony and orchestra that had distinguished the Twin-Cities around the globe. This has been accomplished with minimal investment when compared to the OUTRAGEOUS sums of public money spent on 3rd rate sports teams that enrich the owners and the players.

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panktainterApr. 2, 1310:18 AM

b o r i n g ...tired of reading about this. You have a union and its leaders are failing you. How many people in MN actually care about this? If you do, step up and donate money. I enjoy the product but this drama is tiring. No more for me.

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