Minnesota and nation need immigration reform

  • Article by: Tim Penny, Tom Horner
  • Updated: February 23, 2013 - 7:54 PM

The U.S. Senate's "gang of eight" has offered a path toward balanced reform.

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stribblogFeb. 23, 13 6:26 PM

I'm all for a path to citizenship and then implementing stronger regulations. It's a very complex issue. I've seen many school social workers look the other way, knowing that a family is illegal. Schools get more money for each child that they have in their district and they don't feel it's their place to police it. Why can they get away with knowing that students are illegal, but businesses are punished? Many of the Somalian families who come here are not traditional family structures. If a man gains refugee status to come to the US, and doesn't have a family of his own, other men ask them to take their wife and children so that they will be in a better place. Family reunification could double numbers of Somalian refugees. Let's hope the "Group of Eight" gain the insights that they need to set effective systems in place.

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kerthialfadFeb. 23, 1310:19 PM

The vast major of Americans like immigration, where we differ is in the degree. Immigration need to regulated, and we don't really need a lot more people, and it needs to be in the national interest. A study was done in 1990's under the Clinton Administration, by a Commission on US Population and Immigration, headed by Congresswoman Barbara Jordan, actually recommended strongly that the US curb her immigration rates, ad move toward a more stable population. Now wouldn't the environment love that! We're had Real ID passed, and Secure fence passed, and many other enforcement laws implemented,but not quite enforced. Most all agree that reform is needed. but a repeat of 1986 is unacceptable.

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alansonFeb. 24, 13 3:26 AM

The "reforms" proposed today do little more than repeat the mistakes of Simpson-Mazzoli in 1987: amnesty (called a "path to citizenship" now) paired with tighter border enforcement. 25 yearss later we have a bigger problem than we had back then, and passing another version of the 1987 law will not solve the problem. To work, reform must accept the reality of future large scale illegal immigration and define a way of dealing with it. This could mean automatic advancement to citizenship for anyone who has been a resident for some number of years (15 or 20) regardless of the legality of that residency. It's destructive of our democracy to go through these political spasms over immigration every couple of decades. We need to align our laws with the reality of immigration, legal or otherwise. Not to do so undermines the rule of law.

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greg62Feb. 24, 13 5:00 AM

"I'm all for a path to citizenship and then implementing stronger regulations."_______ Except that border security needs to come first, then we can discuss amnesty. We tried it the other way before and it made the problem worse.

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greg62Feb. 24, 13 5:04 AM

"A study was done in 1990's under the Clinton Administration, by a Commission on US Population and Immigration, headed by Congresswoman Barbara Jordan, actually recommended strongly that the US curb her immigration rates, ad move toward a more stable population."______ I agree. We should actually put a moritorium on immigration until the economy recovers. There aren't enough jobs to go around the way it is and we definately don't need more people on welfare.

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wigglwagonFeb. 24, 13 6:13 AM

"Let’s get real: Even if we wanted to, we could not identify and deport the roughly 11 million undocumented immigrants residing in our country." WHY NOT??? Get real. We can put a man on the moon. We collect taxes from many millions of workers. We require ID to board an airplane or drive a vehicle. It is neither impossible nor prohibitively expensive to effectively deal with all illegal aliens. Every illegal alien who comes in contact with law enforcement in any way should have to await their day in immigration court in their own country. At the very least, the court should issue a restraining order barring them from working. Embezzlers are not allowed to continue embezzling while awaiting their day in court. Illegal workers should not be allowed to continue their crime of working while awaiting their day in court. Every day that an illegal alien works is another day that taxpayers have to support a legal resident's family.

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kilofoxFeb. 24, 13 6:15 AM

If you're here illegally you do not become a US citizen. It's not really that hard.

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oimmigrationFeb. 24, 13 6:47 AM

Yes, Minnesota and the nation needs real immigration reform (less or zero-immigration), and enforcement. But, this proposal from the Obama and the "Gang of 8" is a repeat of the failed 1986 Amnesty or Path to Citizenship for the illegals, only much, much, bigger this time! The fence and enforcement was promised but never delivered. The fence was never built. It is all wrong for America and Americans. It will increase illegal immigration/invasion, and reward law-breaking and the law-breakers. Reward crime. AND, BEING IN OUR COUNTRY ILLEGALLY IS A CRIME. It should be a felony afer 9/11. The illegals are not immigrants and did not come to America to be citizens. What is really driving "this immigration reform" is the self-interest of the politicians, and the Hispanic vote. Both special interests and not good for you or the country. And, legal immigration levels are way too high at 2-million a year, with high unemployment and high state and federal budget deficits and high taxes. Minnesota and the nation are also running out of water. Legal immigration should be tied to the national unemployment rate, and to state and federal budgets and taxes, and to the health of the environment. It should protect our own citizens first and foremost. The immigrants can wait or stay in their own countries. America needs an immigration and population control policy. I want all illegal aliens in our country, all 11-million plus of them, rounded up and deported without delay. That is the law. And America is a nation of laws so lets enforce it. If we can put a man on the moon we can identify, round up and deport all of the illegals. Many would self-deport if we took away the reasons they come here, like jobs, free health care and schooling and housing and food and welfare. And our taxes would be lower as a result. And amend the Constitution to end automatic citizenship to babies born to the illegals who come to America. And lets get that fence built especially along our southern border with Mexico and all of our borders made safe and secure. This would be real comprehensive immigration reform. Our current immigration policy is much too generous and liberal, does not protect our citizens, hurts the environment, and invites another 9/11 disaster. The majority of Americans want less immigration overall, not more, and no amnesty or path to citizenship for the 11-million plus illegal aliens now in our country. Obama and Congress want to help the illegals more than they want to help US! This is wrong. Just tell your leaders in Washington, Obama and the "Gang of 8" NO. Thank you and good luck.

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greg62Feb. 24, 13 7:32 AM

Birthright Citizenship has really hurt this us as well. We need to get rif of it like all the other countries have.

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oimmigrationFeb. 24, 13 7:59 AM

Yes, birthright citizenship to the illegals should and needs to be addressed in comprehensive immigration reform. And, why it is not is wrong. That just shows me that Washington is not serious about solving our illegal invasion/immigration problem. Question and complain to your leaders about this.

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