Long-term deal for Frazier? Not yet

  • Article by: MARK CRAIG , Star Tribune
  • Updated: February 14, 2013 - 6:44 AM

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier had an option picked up for 2014, but his agent said an extension is not in the works.

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sidhartmannFeb. 13, 1311:05 PM

No surprise here. The jury is still out on Frazier but rewarding him with 2014 makes sense.

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born2playFeb. 14, 13 3:15 AM

What are you, Craig, his agent? So, when Frazier won only three games last year it was because of a limited offseason and McNabb at QB -- albeit EVERY coach in the league faced the same work stoppage and it was FRAZIER who wanted McNabb in the first place! And when they lost games this year it was because of injuries (to infer Ponder would have played better than Webb in the playoff game is a bit presumptuous). But when they won games it was because Frazier "guided them." Where was Frazier on Musgrave's asinine game plan in that playoff game when he insisted on using Webb as a drop-back passer? And there doesn't seem to be any mention of the team's no-show against a horrible Tampa team that had to travel here and play on a short week, or the Vikings' laughable performance at Chicago despite having two weeks to prepare for a Bears team that just had its tail kicked on a Monday Night. I'm not saying Frazier ought to be fired, just that his resume hitherto has as many question marks on it as it does accolades. So what's wrong with the team seeing if he can keep it up next year facing a much more difficult schedule? There's 25 million Americans out of work, so I'm sure Frazier himself is grateful for having his option picked-up even though the Strib apparently considers it a slap in the face. This paper did this very sort of contract-lobbying for Childress and where did that get everybody? Geesh... if Craig's name wasn't on this article you would have bet the house that Sid had written it.

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shansti1313Feb. 14, 13 5:50 AM

So what does it take to deserve a 4 year contract extension as a coach with the Vikings? Hiring Favre is a bit "been there, done that." I would imagine. I have noticed Mr Frazier will not tolerate his employees acting as if they answer to only themselves and theres something to be said about not allowing your most talented players to run the show. Hell, in a perfect-ish world far, far away in a Viking land locker room Randy Moss would be griping to Percy Harvin about how Sidney Rice got in the way of a TD pass then Cris Carter chimes in and says, "Fran just didn't throw it far enough." Get rid of Ponder!!!! He is a back up at best and not good enough to have the weight of a franchise on his shoulders or elbow for that matter.

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learyfanFeb. 14, 13 7:29 AM

I think this is a very prudent thing for the Vikes to do and they shouldn't give in and give him an extension before the season until he proves 2012 wasn't a fluke. The Vikes are as capable of going 3-13 again as they are 10-6. The post about the debacle with McNabb in 2011 and other stupid coaching decisions is spot on. Frazier has already announced he would bring in NO competition for Ponder. This should get him fired right now. Another year of Joe Webb or an unproven Bethel-Thompson makes no sense. How can Speilman or Wilf go along with this? Frazier benefited from 2097 yards from Peterson in an alltime great season. If Peterson rushes for say a more normal 1400 next season then that means the missing 700 yards better come from Ponder and no one can believe that will happen. I really think Frazier needs to prove he can coach as there are still way too many questionable decisions he makes. I like him and so do the players but I'm not sure being popular with your players gets the most out of them.

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PoliticalpuckFeb. 14, 13 7:36 AM

I think Leslie is a good guy and a good coach. He's got another two years on his current contract, and if the team plays as well in 2013 as it did last season, he'll get his extension. Frazier is not perfect, certainly not as perfect as some of these posters who are blessed with no responsibility and full hindsight to review every decision he made with laser focus on the decisions that didn't work out. Les Frazier is a quality guy and I look forward to the 2013 season with him in charge of how the Vikings play.

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evanszombieFeb. 14, 13 8:14 AM

A one year extension is quite reasonable, he's learning on the job and getting better as he goes. Let's see what kind of help Mr. Spielman brings to the table as far as WR's, LB's, Corners, DT's, and safety. We'll then be able to judge Leslie more on what kind of season they'll be looking at. The schedule is brutal next year so an 8-8 / 9-7 record could be an acceptable season (though not desirable). As far as Ponder goes, they're simply isn't any better options at this point, the draft is thin and the free agent crop is thinner. And please don't say Alex Smith ... he's not an upgrade in talent, maybe experience but Ponder will learn and get better. He'll never be Payton Manning or Tom Brady but he could be a Tony Romo type which you can win with the right supporting cast.

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bredpathFeb. 14, 13 8:46 AM

Spielman's got more important things to worry about this offseason. Good move locking up Frazier for another year while making sure last season was no fluke. I like the coach and hope he does well, but he's got to prove he can still make a playoff run when Peterson doesn't have an almost record-breaking season.

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siouxchampFeb. 14, 13 8:54 AM

31 of 32 teams and head coaches given the choice, would take Alex Smith over Ponder in a heart beat. Smith also ranked top5 QB's in the league this year, playing 10 games with a rating over 100! Ponder ranked bottom 5 QB's in the league, despite having the BEST RB in the NFL. But Smith isn't an upgrade? What planet are we living on? Smith looked like Ponder his first few years in the league, playing on complete horrible teams while Ponder has been given Loads of talent around him, and still produces bottom of the league stats.

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lynxfan23Feb. 14, 1310:06 AM

Feb. 14, 13 8:54 AM 31 of 32 teams and head coaches given the choice, would take Alex Smith over Ponder in a heart beat. Smith also ranked top5 QB's in the league this year, playing 10 games with a rating over 100! Ponder ranked bottom 5 QB's in the league, despite having the BEST RB in the NFL. But Smith isn't an upgrade? What planet are we living on? Smith looked like Ponder his first few years in the league, playing on complete horrible teams while Ponder has been given Loads of talent around him, and still produces bottom of the league stats.----First off, it is not a one position player when talking about stats, IT IS THE RECORD OF THE TEAM that counts. In Ponder's first year, what talent did he have on his offensive line? Take away Peterson and Harvin what other talent was on the team? In Ponder's 2nd year, What wide receiver help did he have? He did have a decent tight end in Rudolph but he had a bad stretch in mid-season too. Yes he had Peterson but no major help.

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siouxchampFeb. 14, 1310:46 AM

Take away Peterson and Harvin and what talent does Ponder have? What silly question is that? Take away Brady and Welker and what does NE offense have? Fact is, Ponder has more talent around him with a league MVP, and the best verstile WR who played most of the year, great offensive line, and an emerging elite TE! How many QB's can say that? Ponder doesn't have the greatest WR corp, but not the worst. He has more talent to work with than half of the QB"s in the leauge!! Stop making excuses for Ponderosa. Rudolph had a bad stretch because defenses finally covered Ruldoph each play while Ponder was clueless how and where to pull the trigger. Lack of talent on the team isn't the reason Ponder stinks. He lacks physical skills, and has a roller coaster career in terms of performance dating back to college.

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