Minn. Legislature: Assault-weapons ban heats up gun hearings

  • Article by: JIM RAGSDALE , Star Tribune
  • Updated: February 7, 2013 - 7:45 AM

As the debate continued, a legislative committee heard a range of strong views from law enforcement officers and gun owners.

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jlevasseurFeb. 6, 13 9:13 PM

This state goes backwards on the progress that has been made, we are packing up and moving west. Has anyone noticed how the Democratic Party pushes issues that totally divide this nation? Not like they haven't been know for that. I think there was an event around 1861 that proves my point well. What was that issue then? Oh yeah, they were fighting a civil war to protect the rights of Democrats to own slaves. That's a party history to be proud of. :P

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thehoffersFeb. 6, 13 9:18 PM

Are they going to ban totem poles too? How about box cutters and airplane tickets? Tylenol or Kool-Ade? A single fertilizer bomb killed more people than all the mass shootings combined in the last 50 years.

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KlunkyFeb. 6, 13 9:27 PM

There are many things I can think of that people don't need, that are harmful to themselves and others. Is this going to be the new rule of thumb? Let's start with cars that are able to exceed the speed limit by double. Who needs to go that fast? Who needs more than 1 cocktail when out for dinner? Certainly those two things kill far more people each year by a long shot.

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bdssprcFeb. 6, 1310:30 PM

The actual issue of the AWB aside the Kabuki theatre of the DFL during today’s hearing is an INSULT to the citizens of this state. Having ALL DFL members except the committee chair and vice-chair WALK OUT before teh Second amendment proponents got to testify makes a travesty of the hearing process. Add to that the fact the the bills "SPONSOR" allowed a PAID lobbyist to "present" the bill and you see the true nature of the beast. Just one more step in the relentless pursuit of turning citizens into subjects. "The right of the people to keep and bear...arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country..." (James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434 [June 8, 1789]) "...to disarm the people - that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them." (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380) "The prohibition is general. No clause in the Constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give to Congress a power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretense by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both." [William Rawle, A View of the Constitution 125-6 (2nd ed. 1829) "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." (Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-8) "That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of The United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms..." (Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Peirce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)) "And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants" (Thomas Jefferson in a letter to William S. Smith in 1787. Taken from Jefferson, On Democracy 20, S. Padover ed., 1939) "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, The Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244) "the ultimate authority ... resides in the people alone," (James Madison, author of the Bill of Rights, in Federalist Paper #46.) "The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- (Thomas Jefferson)

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comradeFeb. 7, 13 1:22 AM

I see the lazy folks in the media and in the gun control camp continue to spread the lie that an "assault weapon" was used in the Newtown shooting. It wasn't and the police in Newtown said so, so get it right, journos. Those people were killed with two handguns.

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nomedsFeb. 7, 13 7:16 AM

Every time I hear someone who the words "law-abiding citizen" I laugh. There is no such person. Every person has broken some sort of law, be it traffic laws or any other types of laws. Quit using the words "law-abiding citizen". It doesn't make you sound too intelligent.

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EleanoreFeb. 7, 13 7:38 AM

Banning firearms or parts commonly in use is not within the legislature’s scope of authority. Ownership and use of these items is a basic civil right of all Americans. Those participating in this discussion through promoting bill in conflict with our rule of law are wasting the states time, and our resources even debating the issue. If you don't appreciate this waste please write your legislators and inform them of your feelings. Civil rights are not negotiable in state legislatures, any more than they are in congress. If you want to negate civil rights, you need to pass an amendment to our federal constitution.

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privateeyeFeb. 7, 13 7:53 AM

So, all the experts and law enforcement endorse a ban on assault weapons and magazines that hold an extreme number of rounds. When did the GOP become the party of anti security? There is no reason to have a weapon capable of firing that many rounds per minutes. As an owner of over twenty firearms, I support the ban and hope it is passed. Short sightedness seems to be the trait of the day.

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EleanoreFeb. 7, 13 8:21 AM

"So, all the experts and law enforcement endorse a ban on assault weapons and magazines that hold an extreme number of rounds. When did the GOP become the party of anti security?" - Sounds like as long as experts and law enforsement have been anti civil rights and rule of law? So...generally never.

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marsbonfireFeb. 7, 13 8:23 AM

EleanoreFeb. 7, 13 7:38 AM Banning firearms or parts commonly in use is not within the legislature’s scope of authority. Ownership and use of these items is a basic civil right of all Americans_____________No it isn't. The Supreme Court said in 2008 with the majority opinion, written by Justice Scalia, states: "Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited...It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose."

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