Craig: More than ever Carter, Canton add up

  • Article by: MARK CRAIG , Star Tribune
  • Updated: February 1, 2013 - 9:17 PM

The former Viking's touchdown total dwarfs competition in this year's vote.

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tjtwinsfanFeb. 2, 13 7:27 AM

It is imperative that Carter makes the Hall of Fame. He and Jake Reed made Moss. And vice versa. Moss thinks he is the best of all time but in reality when he didn't have Carter and Reed or just Carter his production diminished a lot. Quarterbacks make a big difference to. Look at when Moss was at Oakland he did little there. When he had Brady he did great. Rodgers gets to much credit. True he is good but if he loses 2 or 3 of his top 5 receivers you will find out he isn't as great as he is with 5 receivers to throw to. Teams can cover 1 great wide receiver and even 2 good ones but not 3 or more great ones. If the Vikings were to get 2 great wide receivers through the draft and free agency this year to go along with Peterson Harvin and Rudolph, then just about any Qb will be better than average. You would see a tremendous improvement in Ponder. And even the offensive line would be even better. The defenses would not be able to stack the line knowing we would have deep threats. I know Ponder will never be a super star Qb but he would be 10 times better if the Vikings got a couple quality deep threats wide receivers. Rodgers would struggle alot with the receivers we have. Teams would stack the line on him and he would spend a lot of time on his back. Rodgers has 5 receivers and no team can rush him enough because they have to cover his receivers. I hope Jennings and Jones both leave along with Driver retiring that would be sweet.

wentomdahlFeb. 2, 1310:01 AM

Since the 1970's of HOF wrs only Jerry Rice can say he was better than CC. The td totals and the best hands of all time. Say no more Carter more than deserves to be in he is entitled!

hilgenbergFeb. 2, 1310:33 AM

Mark, you might want to point out that, unlike the other HOF receivers, Carter was not playing catch with Montana, Aikman, or Steve Young his entire career. He did not have a situation where the QB knew his every move. Rather, almost every season, Carter had to get used to a new QB: Cunningham, Gannon, Salisbury, McMahon, Moon, Johnson, George, Culpepper, Brister, most of them mediocre at best. Yet, he caught everything they threw.

twinsfanwy1Feb. 2, 1310:54 AM

We shouldn't be having this discussion. Carter should have been in the first time his name went up for a vote. I think its high time Carter is given the recognition he so rightly deserves. In my opinion, no WR ever worked harder at his craft than Carter. He had an insatiable drive to succeed, to elevate his teammates and fans, and above all, he was about winning football. Whatever happens, Cris Carter will always hold a fond place in this Vikings fan's purple heart! Skol Vikings!!!

steavis61067Feb. 2, 1311:01 AM

The naysayers will say CC is a jerk, bad analyst, etc. The naysayers cannot deny the numbers. He was a game changer, and I truly hope he gets in this year.

FLUXERFLIXER Feb. 2, 1311:10 AM

If Cris Carter does not get in this year, then their should be a serious investigation into the voting process and get things changed before they continue to poison and disgrace the HoF as a whole!

hilgenbergFeb. 2, 1311:23 AM

Plus Carter's story is biblical in nature. Tossed to the curb, he picke dhimself up and not only turned his life around, he devoted his off the field life to alerting younger NFL players about the hazards of a hedonistic lifestyle. He became a role model. What more do they want?

purplewvFeb. 2, 1311:56 AM

This should be the year that Carter finally gets in. I'm not saying that Reed, and Brown are not worthy to be in the HOF. I'm just saying that their stats don't match up to Carters'. Food for thought: WR's in the HOF, that played 70's-80's are as follows-Alworth, Biletnikoff, Hayes, Irvin, Joiner, Largent, Lofton, Monk, Rice, Stallworth, Swann, Taylor, and Warfield. If you look at these players stats, only Rice could say that he had a more productive career. This while playing with a much better supporting cast than Carter. The excuse of Super Bowl rings, should not be a factor. The HOF doesn't induct Teams, but players. Induction should not be based on personality, and how nice the player was to the media. It should be based on how a player, played his career, and the stats that he collected in that time. Season awards such as the All-Pro team don't base their picks, on how the player interviews on TV, or if the player is likeable or not. It is based on the players performance on the field, compared to others who play that position. Why should it be any different for the HOF. Cris Carter is a HOF WR, period. Don't even get me started, about Jim Marshall!!!!! GO VIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thetruthincFeb. 2, 1312:55 PM

Carter has been passed up for the HOF for obvious reasons mainly of which is that he simply does NOT stand up to those that have been voted in since he has been eligible. Carter is overated, he did little for the vikings other than put up inflated stats that id little to help his team and as soon as Moss showed up he took a back seat. His stats actually got better when Moss showed up because he was basically being ingored by the other team's DB's because they knew he was slow and not a deep threat whatsoever. The ONLY thing Carter was good at was catching those pathetic four yard passes along the sideline. Sorry Carter, NO HOF for you. Again!!!

steavis61067Feb. 2, 13 2:08 PM

@thetruthinc - "Carter has been passed up for the HOF for obvious reasons mainly of which is that he simply does NOT stand up to those that have been voted in since he has been eligible" .............................................................. Ok, name them. The author tells a different story, and backs them up. Your turn to back up yours.


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