Budget is swell - for Minnesota's competition

  • Article by: DAVID C. OLSON
  • Updated: February 2, 2013 - 6:48 PM

"Tax the rich," we expected. But business is surprised by so much taxing and spending with so little reform.

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texas_technomanFeb. 2, 13 7:01 PM

The chamber has become as bad as the Tea Party....taxes on businesses services are being considered in many states....with both Dem and GOP gov's!

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paulusFeb. 2, 13 7:22 PM

The wealthy have tha ability to move from Minnesota just as they have done in other states with high tax rates. All the governor needed to do was look at California, New York, and New Jersey, and Maryland, but instead the DFL's solution to everything is higher taxes. Why not just move your trust fund from So. Dakota, that would be a good start.

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tacotonyFeb. 2, 13 8:28 PM

Government should have the same goals as business,improve product increase revenue.

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fwallenFeb. 2, 13 9:24 PM

I wouldn't mind paying higher taxes IF there was a plan to reform how it is spent. Just throwing more money at failed or failing programs is not a valid reason for more revenue. Everywhere you look we are spending more money with diminishing results. Dayton has made a fundamental blunder: talking revenue before telling citizens how it will improve the state.

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basia2186Feb. 3, 13 1:50 AM

The negative comments regarding the excellent, logical editorial by Mr. Olson prove how so many have been brainwashed into thinking more government is good. Profitable businesses and more jobs are good. Not concentrating on making government more efficient and cost effective is bad. Government should not concentrate on "more revenue and other schemes" to take more from the workers! Working folks should be able to keep more MONEY, to spend and perhaps even save some! You got what you voted for libs. Bet you didn't figure they wanted more of your money too. Government exists to serve the people, not support them financially! Police, fire,schools and license plates. Get social services back to the churches and non-profits. Right now the roles are reversed, we are working till about June to pay for our bloated government. Let's talk about reducing spending before any new taxes further reduce the worker's quality of life.

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rpchamplinFeb. 3, 13 3:42 AM

I really understand what the author is saying and his/her concerns. But let me relate it to something that happened to me in 1982 when the country was in a love affair with Ronald Regan. I had the opportunity to do a week of business training in Texas soon after I graduated from college. On the flight back from Houston, my seat partner was a business women employed by a fortune 500 company based here in Minnesota. I asked her what was the nature of her trip. Her response was..I was on a recruiting trip to convince a team member to move to Minnesota as we have a opening at the corporate office. So I asked her the obvious question..isn't it hard to convince someone to move to this horrible climate coupled with it's high tax structure? Her response was this....yes it is, but once we get them here and they experience our culture, good schools, good roads, the sports and entertainment opportunities, and our fantastic theater choices....its impossible to get them to take a promotion and move out of this area once they are here. So what have we done since? Let our infrastructure and schools go to a hen basket to try and reduce our taxes so that they reflect what is going on in the south. But we are better than that. A tornado rips through northern Minneapolis do we receive federal aid like they would down south, no we don't, we have our own resources. A 500 year flood decimates Duluth, do we get max federal aid? no we don't, we can handle it, might I remind you that southern states would be demanding federal aid. So I ask you this question, are we better off today than we were in the 1980's in respect to schools, infrastructure, public safety, the resounding answer IMO is no. Now let me make a tongue in cheek comment, I can cut millions out of the budget to compete with the southern states, simply don't pay for snow removal. Back in the 80's Regan uttered these famous words..." America is a shining city upon a hill" I believe that the tallest hill in America before and during his first term was Minnesota, and I believe we can get back to that by investing in our culture, infrastructure, and schools, and if that means a couple of bucks out of my pocket than so be it.

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comment229Feb. 3, 13 6:35 AM

failed or failing programs... I don't mean this in a bad way, so please don't take offense, but I would really like to know what you consider to be failed and failing programs? Also, I would like to see the governor specifically target any new revenues for balancing the budget only, OR paying back the schools. I have always suggested our legislature has too many members as well and we would get the same or better results with fewer people, fewer staffs, and fewer buildings to maintain. And I can think of quite a few other areas that could be cut as well, but this is going to be the same old thing; I would cut programs etc. that don't concern me personally, without considering who the cuts would affect. That, I need to keep in mind too. Any comments about programs this state should be cutting? I would like to hear them too.

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comment229Feb. 3, 13 6:46 AM

"but instead to keep Minnesota businesses competitive in the global economy".. I'll take a shot at this one. So far today, I have tried to buy two items, and found out that both were made in China. I always here from the business types that we need to be able to compete in the global economy. I can tell you flat out, that any time we have to compete against labor costs from China, Indonesia, Vietnam, etc. we are going to lose or we are going to have to grossly lower the standard of living and wage expectations of our middle class. Is this what this author is advocating? I wonder when this gentleman is going to support the middle class workers of America, instead of throwing them under the bus? I wonder why people like him, don't promote Made in the USA? and demanding tariffs on products once manufactured here, but moved to foreign countries? I wonder why he doesn't condemn companies like Apple, who have their products manufactured over seas instead of building factories here? Try to convince me, that I am going to be better off when I hear the words "global economy." I can tell you flat out, that all it means is "made in China" and that manufacturing in the USA is almost done.

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wisebookFeb. 3, 13 7:05 AM

The fact that this author met with Rick Scott (one of the worst Governors in the nation and with one of the lowest approval ratings among his state's voters) says a lot about the Chamber of Commerce. I see that the author pulls out the well worn Republican talking point that all the businesses and people will move away with high taxes. I lived in Maryland for eight years. It is a high tax state(higher than MN) and we had the state with the fourth highest household income in the country and the 5th highest rate of millionaires. Why then did they not all race across the border to Virginia? Because the traffic is horrible and their government refuses to spend on the infrastructure or education. Seems to me that the Chamber should be smart enough to know that the governor's budget is how the conversation begins- not where it ends and the part he is right about is that we should be talking with our legislators about budget priorities right now so we get the budget we can all live with.

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wisebookFeb. 3, 13 7:09 AM

Tacotony: NO Government should not have the same goals as business. The goal of business is to generate revenue. I NEVER want an entity that has taxing power and police power to have as their goal to generate revenue. Such an entity merely raises taxes and writes more traffic tickets.

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