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Neat division between 'self-reliance' and 'entitlement' is hollow rhetoric.
Tell us how many people collect SS that never paid in? SS Disability and Supplemental Social Security Benefits are available to people that never paid a dime into the systems. Those are entitlements. The rest of us are being paid back a portion of what we paid in and that is not an entitlement.
From the article: "Since when did Social Security and Medicare make us an 'entitlement state'?" Since Atlas shrugged. Since the fountainhead of anti-altruism flooded the public square. Since Ayn Rand proclaimed, "Selfishness is a virtue."
The people who get SS or SSI and "never paid a dime" are mostly the stay-at-home wives or widows (and Republicans claim to LIKE women who stay home to raise their children and keep house for their husbands instead of working for pay) of men who did work all their lives and their minor children, as well as people who are and always have been too disabled to work or to work more than part-time, such as someone who is born with severe brain damage or acquires it in childhood. Yeah, what a bunch of lazy freeloaders (SARCASM). May I remind you that former vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan spent part of his childhood on SS survivors' benefits after his father died. I doubt that he had ever paid in to SS at that point.
conniemercer: "Tell us how many people collect SS that never paid in? SS Disability and Supplemental Social Security Benefits..." These are insurance benefits that we, as a society, have agreed to pay into for those who are disabled through no fault of their own. This represents a tiny percentage of total payouts from the SS fund and is the least a civilized society can do for its most disadvantaged citizens. They are not entitled to these payments; we are morally (and legally) obligated to make provide them.
Conniemercer: the developmentally disabled can collect SSDI. Clearly they are freeloaders. Would you trade places with them or with their parents? Or would you rather step over them on the street?
Facts are facts. If you did not pay for it and you get something anyway it is an entitlement. Regardless of whether people need it or not it is an entitlement. Bash conniemercer all you like, but she is right.
Young is right to observe that we are a divided nation *********** We can thank the administration for this.
docgeddy - If you didn't pay in it is an entitlement. Pure and simple. Arguing whether or not it is needed is not the point and no one suggested it is not needed. Why do you folks not like facts?
docgeddy - If you are disabled you are ENTITLED to benefits. Get it? It is an entitlement.
firefight41Jan. 29, 13 7:24 AM
Young is right to observe that we are a divided nation *********** We can thank the administration for this._____________No, partisan hacks with agendas can blame the administration for this. People that reside in reality, not so much.
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