Security focus now includes Minnesota's grade schools

  • Article by: HERÓN MÁRQUEZ ESTRADA , Star Tribune
  • Updated: January 14, 2013 - 6:52 AM

Farmington and other districts are weighing ways to improve school safety.

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jarlmnJan. 13, 13 8:40 PM

I'll leave aside the question of how one can have a LOCKer with no doors. The fact is that like it or not, our society had changed and our schools are now targets-of-choice for malcontents who wish to lash-out. Sorry folks, but the supposed idyllic schools of your imagined childhoods, are long-gone. Deal! Thus, rather than illogical weapons bans which will be impotent to protect our schools, we must increase vigilance and security. But we should also do the even harder work of looking at the school social environment and how it actively spawns malcontents who then wish to harm teachers and fellow students. We must face the fact that our 'beloved' schools are often social cesspools. I find it exceedingly disingenuous that many of the same folks who readily rail against school bullying, are then the very folks who blithely blame guns for these school shooting incidents. Huh? What?

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danscJan. 13, 13 8:42 PM

Putting Security Officers in schools, with guns will create a public health issue - with more kids across thousands of schools, shot by Security Officers than will be saved by them. Physical access control may help deter spree killer violence, but only deter it since the spree killers could then just go to movie theaters, schools busses and mcdonalds' restaurants. The best odds to prevent mass murders is in our mental health system. Most of these killers are on strong medication that may be making their illnesses worse, or they are totally not addressed by our mental health resources at all. Developing a mental health mandatory reporting system, along with court supervision for people who have violent tendancies seems to be the best place to put our resources.

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cman2500Jan. 13, 13 8:51 PM

We have armed security / police on most college campuses, High Schools and middle schools so it's time to add armed security to the grade schools.Nothing to weigh just get it done.

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bstjernJan. 13, 13 9:07 PM

I wonder if the school where the President's kids attend is armed? Even before Sandy Hook.

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megavicJan. 13, 13 9:25 PM

I have 2 sons in grade school and a daughter who will start in 3 years. Having an armed security person (who has ongoing training and yearly background checks) present at their school would definitly get my support. There are other ways to give our kids protection as well but two dozen cameras or a greeter is not going to stop a lunatic who is armed.

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billbrasky72Jan. 13, 13 9:50 PM

LOL. A Walmart type greeter will be nothing more than the first target for an armed gunman. If you're going use tax dollars to pay somebody to stand around all day, a trained and armed guard would be exponentially more effective.

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jjminblzrJan. 13, 1310:15 PM

We can have better security at all schools, Elementary, Middle/Junior High Schools, and High Schools. Most of those items have been discussed, one entry, lock all outside doors, more security cameras, a greeter at the door, and more. However, as a society we must recognize we like our “rights”! Until someone does something “illegal”, there is not much we can do to or for these “suspect” individuals. Some may recall when a family member could “sign” someone into a State Hospital. No legal hearing, no medical or mental history, just “sign” and leave. While our society and our systems have moved far away from the “sign and forget”, to a rather lengthy legal procedure, our present procedure is the law! Every open society will have bad people making bad decisions. These people most recently have selected crowded places to act out. There is not enough security of any kind that can prevent these incidents. Essentially we have similar events every day on the roads of Minnesota and the nation. Every week we have multiple deaths on our highways due to alcohol of one or both drivers. However, once again, we have bad people making bad decision. Society tries hard to curb alcohol and driving, yet the deaths continue to mount. We must change society and our culture before society is safer from other people. It is not guns, it is not cars, it is not alcohol, it is not drugs. It is our society and our culture that allows and condones these incidents to continue to happen.

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rshacklefordJan. 13, 1310:29 PM

(quote by Snyder): "Our world has changed to such a degree," said Lakeville Superintendent Lisa Snyder, "that unfortunately we might need to lock our schools." ---- Doors are not already locked?! Nice going. (1) Install thick metal doors and keep them locked (double-up to-be-recycled doors from closing schools). (2) Have a camera with buzzer at each ($25 each). (3) If you want in, you use a specially coded keycard or buzzer and the volunteer security officer (a retired person likely) buzzes you in (this includes teachers bringing kids in from classes). (4) Doors will obviously open-out freely in case of emergency. Review: better doors, a networked camera, a two way communication audio device, and one volunteer security officer working in an office near the principal. (see also, how apartment buildings and hotel room doors work)

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minn12Jan. 13, 1310:44 PM

@dansc:"Putting Security Officers in schools, with guns will create a public health issue - with more kids across thousands of schools, shot by Security Officers than will be saved by them." Really?? Are you kidding?? Show me once case anywhere in this country where an armed trained school security person accidentally shot an innocent school kid. It doesn't happen. This is the kind of preposterous nonsense that some people might actually believe. And that might keep schools from doing the one thing that will actually prevent mass shootings: have armed good guys on site. The gun haters will not like it, but eventually, you are going to see more and more schools adding armed security. Of course, they'll never admit the NRA is right -the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

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comment229Jan. 14, 13 4:37 AM

"LOL. A Walmart type greeter will be nothing more than the first target for an armed gunman. If you're going use tax dollars to pay somebody to stand around all day, a trained and armed guard would be exponentially more effective." Sorry, but the people who have attacked our schools were not stupid people. They planned the attacks. You are right that the greeter would be the first casualty, unless you used some common sense along with it. Most schools I know, have locked down all the doors except for the main entrance and even that is locked during the day. How did Lanza get in? He shot out the window next to the door and pressed the panic bar to get in. Your greeter, would have to be in a kind of kiosk with bullet proof glass, much like a movie theater ticket seller sits in. That person would also have to have a panic button to push that would close and lock all fire doors leading to the corridors. Each teacher should also have the ability to lock their rooms when this all happens. So simple, and yet it is not even discussed. If the principal at Sandy Hook had had this option, and the teachers that were killed also, it would have stopped Lanza. As far as the security guard, guess who the second target is going to be? Further, want to tell me how he is going to fare with his 9mm hand gun against a semi automatic assault rifle?

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