NRA has it wrong

  • Article by: EDITORIAL , New York Times
  • Updated: December 22, 2012 - 6:26 PM

If lawful gun owners are willing to subject themselves to background checks, why is the association resisting?

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deputydawg2Dec. 23, 12 8:55 AM

I would bet that none of those pushing for a ban on "assault" weapons would know the difference an AR-15 from an AK-47.

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pumiceDec. 23, 12 9:38 AM

The USA has twelve times the gun violence problem of the average of other OECD countries. Three factors are usually cited as contributing to gun violence in the US: the incidence of criminal mental illness, violence in the media--particularly in video games, and easy access to guns.

To the first, the US incidence of criminal mental illness is no higher than that of any other OECD country.

To the second, the incidence of violent video games in the USA is not higher than in other OECD countries. In Japan, for example, violent video games are ubiquitous; the incidence of gun deaths is near zero.

To the third, the USA has 5% of the world's population and 50% of the world's guns.

We need a holistic approach to our gun violence problem. Ignoring easy access to guns ignores the part of the gun violence problem which differentiates us from the rest of the civilized, developed world.

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bizsmithDec. 23, 12 9:50 AM

Who cares what the difference is between an AR-15 and an AK-47 (and I do know). No one needs that type of weapon. I have guns and I used to hunt, but I repeat, no one needs that type of weapon.

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greg62Dec. 23, 12 9:59 AM

The left doesn't want to ban "assault" weapons, they want to ban ALL firearms. They just need a place to start.

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deputydawg2Dec. 23, 1210:06 AM

"No one needs that type of weapon" How elitist of liberals to decide what people need or don't need. They also know when others have too much and it should be taken away from them.

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greg62Dec. 23, 1210:12 AM

I was in Israel a few years ago and never saw so many guns in my life. Law abiding citizens are encouraged to carry them in public to stop acts of terror immediately, and it works pretty well. We could learn from the Israelis.

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pumiceDec. 23, 1210:16 AM

To the point of the article, gun manufacturers and gun retailers contributed $100 million to the NRA. As The Nation observed, "America’s gun lobby and gun industry both benefit from creating a fearful vision of life in the United States—a picture of criminals constantly menacing our families and a government hellbent on taking our guns—that is very effective at selling weapons."

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deputydawg2Dec. 23, 1210:35 AM

"To the point of the article, gun manufacturers and gun retailers contributed $100 million to the NRA."

So what? They lobby to protect OUR constitutional right to own fire arms. How much do unions contribute directly and indirectly to democrats? Estimates are it was over 300 million in the 2012 campaign cycle.

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hobie2Dec. 23, 1212:20 PM

"the USA has 5% of the world's population and 50% of the world's guns..." What do you mean by this hand-waved comment? China has far more "guns" than the US, as does India and Pakistan. Cite your stats, if you can.

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hobie2Dec. 23, 1212:38 PM

The argument that gun manufacturers run the pro-gun argument is interesting. If we use the [wrong] claim that there are 300 million firearms for the 300 million Americans, it leads to a couple of contradictory conclusions.. First, if it is a "huge industry" selling guns as is claimed by the gun control faction, then a great many Americans want guns - or they wouldn't buy them. No one is putting a gun to their head and making them buy a gun. So a great many Americans want them - and thus the gun control advocates just want to social engineer and prevent a great many Americans from their choice. .. Second, again using the gun control factions argument: Guns rarely ever wear out, and the worn part -even a barrel - is easily replaced. So with the 300 million guns claimed available, who is buying all these billion dollars worth of new guns the manufacturers allegedly provide?. The market is flooded... Third, one person can only fire one firearm at a time, so owning 20 guns instead of one with 20 clips makes no difference. Besides, even Rambo can't carry more than three at a time without getting a hernia - ever picked up an ammo box of a couple hundred rounds?... The gun control crowd is worse than the Tea party in their use of "facts" and "claims"... Their mindless chanting of their kool-aid mantras only gets in the way of finding real solutions.

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