Craig: The Ponder quandary

  • Article by: MARK CRAIG , Star Tribune
  • Updated: December 8, 2012 - 6:23 PM

Is he really on the verge of Brees-dom, or is he on the road to Tarvaris-ville? No one really knows.

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gotwinsDec. 8, 12 6:39 PM

It's one thing for a young quarterback to be making the right reads but a little late getting the ball out but another thing if a young quarterback is making the wrong reads and throws interceptions. By making the right reads but throwing late there is hope for the future, but the other way around? The Vikings are in trouble.

northsportsDec. 8, 12 6:40 PM

I like Christian Ponder and I think his team mates like him also along with the coaching staff but a mistake was made as he does not possess NFL armstrength which is the #1 factor in making it in the NFL. He may have all of the other alpha male intellectual qualifications to play QB in the NFL but he is a bust due to arm strength and was realistically a 3rd round pick at best on most NFL draft boards. He would not be the #3 QB on most NFL teams in the league if you went by the merit of his ability and play. The Vikes made a mistake as you can be less than 6'-4" and be successful as an NFL QB but you better have a cannon of an arm along with good mobility and throwing mechanics on the run. Turn Webb loose or the Bethel kid as they have the arm strength to actually have a legitimate career in the NFL. Christian Ponder will make a great QB coach someday but his noodle arm makes him a bust at the NFL level and no amount of games moving forward is going to change that either.

bs6699Dec. 8, 12 7:13 PM

Ponder's arm strength is fine. It's just one of the many things that distinguish a successful NFL QB. But taking him in the 1st round was a stretch; hold Spielman accountable.

zoilovDec. 8, 12 7:30 PM

If the Vikings go 3 and out and the Bears score first, then the boo birds will be out in force. No home field advantage here. With a half decent QB, the Vikings would be at 8 and 4, with the inside track to a playoff. As it is, 6-10 looks to be a reality...90% of the fans in a survey think Ponder should be benched. How about playing the players that give the Vikes the best chance to win...and that's not Ponder. Sticking with Ponder is sticking to the paying fans...

robb123Dec. 8, 12 7:38 PM

Yeah see what Charley Casserly had to say about Ponder today on NFL Total Access.Not a franchise QB.Also that the Vikings shouldn't throw him out with the bath water but keep a QB in mind in the draft.I personally have to feel that MBT has got to be sitting back thinking"I could do better than that".And I believe if given the opportunity could really develop into a top knotch QB.Just the small sampling fans saw was impressive and I believe the Viking's staff will eventually turn to him.A diamond in the rough if you will.

bolson66Dec. 8, 12 9:52 PM

problem with ponder , among many, is that one could argue that he doesn't have elite arm strength, which is fine as neither does Eli Manning. Ponder did throw that ball to J. Wright against Detroit for 60 yds with relative ease and decent accuracy (because he stepped up in the pocket and drove the ball down the field) . But, he can't make up for his below avg. arm strength with above avg. accuracy on even shorter passes. hard to remember a time when he really hit someone in stride (huge difference between avg. QB and Brees, manning 2, brady's of the world). I hope like hell that they come out throwing the football against Chicago. AP can run for 250, but is meaningless unless you have some resemblance of a passing game. We need to find out NOW if Ponder can be a competent throwing QB, because if not give Webb a chance (he can add another dimension that Ponder can't - run for 60 yd on any given play)

nitetrainDec. 8, 1210:26 PM

The only thing that makes this story the "Ponder Quandry," is that he is a first round, 12th pick bust of a "quarterback." My eye test says he will never, ever be a franchise quarterback, period. Regardless of how many times the Vikings and writers try to intimate the jury is still out on this, is like justice --- blind.

jachesteDec. 8, 1210:37 PM

If he was trending upward in his performance, I'd be fine with sticking with him. What we have, 2 years in a row, is a QB who falls off the more he plays. He seems to functionally loses his game awareness and pocket presence as the year goes along. He's not even checking down on his reads most plays at this point. It's all about being locked in on one receiver and if he's not open, run. Ponder maybe academically very bright, but his football IQ seems pretty low to me.

vikeforlifeDec. 8, 1211:21 PM

I have supported Ponder so far but his play of late has been real discouraging to say the least but I still think some of the poor play is on the coaching staff. If CP is making the same weak and indecisive throws in practice surely something would change right? He does not appear ready in most games and the Vikes are never able to change on the fly. Any young QB whether it be Luck,RG3,or CP needs coaching and I don't know if Ponder is getting much of that right now. Other coaches are talking to their QB during games and looking at pictures but Ponder either sits or stands on the sidelines when defense is on the field. If the Vikes QB issue is going to get settled both Ponder and the coaches need to improve.

greenway1Dec. 9, 1212:37 AM

Please do not compare this guy to Brees or Eli Manning. The only other QB that is worse than Ponder in the history of this franchise is Spurgeon Wynn. That is a closer comparison than to Brees or Eli Manning. Remember the Vikings are last in the NFL in passing offense this season and you can't sugarcoat those numbers as to his ineffectiveness.


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