A red state-blue state divorce plan

  • Article by: PAUL VANDEVELDER
  • Updated: November 23, 2012 - 7:03 PM

Secessionists, here's how some of us want to divide the country.

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mothmoonNov. 23, 12 7:22 PM

It wouldn't work, the red states would declare war on us within five years.

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winepoetryNov. 23, 12 7:27 PM

I have to call into question this article's premise. As a researcher who studies the differences between liberals and conservatives in religious cultures, I believe there's a very strong case that all human groups need both "liberals" and "conservatives" to survive and adapt to challenges. Without liberals, cultures don't adapt to new problems or create innovations. Without conservatives, they forget how to organize groups, negotiate personal weakness, and deal effectively with interpersonal conflicts. Progressive culture has forgotten that traditional lifeways (including, yes, various forms of religion) actually offer real tools for dealing with these essential human dilemmas, and the whole culture loses something because of this. So the polarization that characterizes our current national discourse is something we need to overcome. The conservatives who live in the red states and the liberals who live in the blue states actually have something real to offer to one another – assuming they're willing to start listening.

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wcc1016Nov. 23, 12 7:33 PM

First and foremost - I got to visit your state a few years ago and loved the region (Owatonna) - Have never thought of secession seriously but sigh - you made me think of it with your article. And, I like the sound of it. BUT - Austin has to deport all the Californians who couldn't work because their state was (and still is broke) from 1990 - present. YOU get those guys back. Have fun!

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wtrfwlrNov. 23, 12 7:50 PM

Perhaps the writer could use a few more stereotypes about the people he is mocking, that way he could even feel his "progressive, enlightened" thinking is that much more superior.

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wcc1016Nov. 23, 12 8:06 PM

Red state - blue state - "work for a living state" - "take for a living state" LOL!!!!

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getcrazyNov. 23, 12 8:07 PM

" Without liberals, cultures don't adapt to new problems or create innovations. Without conservatives, they forget how to organize groups, negotiate personal weakness, and deal effectively with interpersonal conflicts."----------You're saying liberals can't organize? Really? Then why do we have a democrat in the white house? Obviously you missed that part. Liberals organized and put a liberal in the white house. They raised money for the campaign, they got bumper stickers printed, they organized and helped defeat both the marriage amendment and voting amendment that was introduced by extremists conservatives from the Tea Party GOP. Really without liberals conservatives would force everyone to hang onto old ideas that clearly are not working for the hard working tax paying middle class.

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getcrazyNov. 23, 12 8:12 PM

"It wouldn't work, the red states would declare war on us within five years."-- and they would lose again. They would have massive financial problems and start going third world in less than a year. Wait, some of the southern red state already are third world.

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sambisselNov. 23, 12 8:16 PM

Did anyone think that many signers of the petitions were northerners wanting to rid themselves of the south? I would be glad to.

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wcc1016Nov. 23, 12 8:19 PM

@mothmoon - declare "war" for what? More debt? From my paycheck? I disagree. It would be a boon to the red states.

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pitythefoolsNov. 23, 12 8:23 PM

Please, please, please Red States secede. The fact is that most Red States get back more from the Federal Government than they send. Thus I am forced to subsidize ignorance and prejudice. How ever will the Red States survive without their handouts?

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