Liberal groups regrouping to save entitlements

  • Article by: ZACHARY A. GOLDFARB , Washington Post
  • Updated: November 12, 2012 - 11:17 PM

With negotiations set to resume over avoiding fiscal cliff, activists say election bolstered resolve to fight concessions.

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bluedevil101Nov. 12, 12 7:57 PM

Congress needs to let this go and get out fiscal house in order. We've borrowed and borrowed and its time to pay the piper. If we do that there will be short term pain, but over the long haul we will be stronger.

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yoymrdoeNov. 12, 1210:16 PM

The POTUS and Congress will continue to kick the can down the road. No federal budget for 4 years and before long it will be 8 years.

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vampress_meNov. 12, 1211:26 PM

"if the talks do not progress as Obama wants, he may barnstorm around the country to rally the public behind his position" Is this considered more campaigning like the last 4 years, or a temper tantrum?

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elmore1Nov. 13, 1212:19 AM

Other than taxing the uber rich I still have no clue what Obama's "plan" is. I am guessing that the Unions will tell him what to do.

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ciamanNov. 13, 1212:32 AM

What is clear is that the liberals are in trouble. If they attack their President and want more billions of dollars, then what? The President knows he has to stop the spending to a large extent. And the liberals really do not like the Republicans at all. That does not leave much for the all spending liberals, um? It will be interesting to see what happens.

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swmnguyNov. 13, 12 5:45 AM

Our entire finance-based economic system is hitting the wall. Entitlements aren't the problem. Take away all the spending on the global war machine and propping up the finance system after serial bubbles, and we wouldn't be having this conversation. Do something real to restrain runaway inflation in health care and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

We're spending $85 billion a month to buy worthless mortgage securities and otherwise prop up the bond market, but we're complaining about Social Security and Medicare, which have already been paid for by current recipients? Maybe if we hadn't taken that money and spent it on bailouts and overseas wars, we'd be in a better position?

It's a telling glimpse at who has power in the US. The government is willing to trade the interests of its citizens for the benefit of the vested interests in finance. If we raised or removed the cap on income subject to Social Security taxation, Social Security would be solvent as far as we can forecast. It's already fine for at least 30 years. If we took some sensible action on health care (rather than the giveaway to insurance companies we're going to do now), like opening up Medicare to everyone instead of just the sickest and poorest Americans, we'd fix that problem too.

But those options are off the table. Nothing's too good for Finance. We'll spend the future well-being of our country today, to make sure we can bail out the next collapsing finance bubble. Obama voters who feared Paul Ryan are going to get a very nasty surprise indeed.

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ivehaditNov. 13, 12 6:15 AM

vampress_me === "if the talks do not progress as Obama wants, he may barnstorm around the country to rally the public behind his position" Is this considered more campaigning like the last 4 years, or a temper tantrum? === It's exactly what Bush did to try to sell privatization of Social Security right after he was re-selected. Presidents do this quite regularly. You might as well get used to it!

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dvsdan123Nov. 13, 12 6:59 AM

Currently Social Security taxes are limited to the first 100K+ of wages. If the people making over this were required to pay SS tax on their entire wages as the rest of us pay, Social Security would be solvent. The rich would pay equal to the rest of us, and SS payments to the retired would not need to be lowered. WHY ISN'T THIS BEING DISCUSSED IN CONGRESS?

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solarnowNov. 13, 12 7:19 AM

How about we start by only giving the military what they ask for, not $2,000,000,000,000 more than they request.

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circleoflifeNov. 13, 12 7:25 AM

This could get ugly

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