SPCO players unanimously reject contract

  • Article by: GRAYDON ROYCE , Star Tribune
  • Updated: October 31, 2012 - 8:44 PM

The locked-out musicians rebuffed cuts in pay and staffing. More concerts were canceled.

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lostinstpaulOct. 31, 12 3:09 PM

Greedy union, plain and simple. Let me guess- a 10% raise just isnt enough, is it? (It'd be nice if the story had ANY details in it)

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drposterOct. 31, 12 3:09 PM

Fire and replace. For every one of these pampered, arrogant, 6 figure making fools there are another hundred or so fighting for a chance to take a seat.

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freedubayOct. 31, 12 3:44 PM

Where they on strike? Are they affiliated with the NHL?

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lee4713Oct. 31, 12 5:11 PM

The trolls are out in force, I see. The musicians aren't "pampered" and their salaries are pretty low for their excellence and expertise. And it's not just money - it's any sort of control over what they do. Dobby should tell us why the Board feels it needs to basically undersell this world-class organization in order to fill every seat at firesale prices - or even for free. When the organization crumbles, he won't be able to give tickets away.

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kpno88Oct. 31, 12 5:36 PM

I agree with everything that lee4713 says!! Our orchestras contribute to the quality of life in Minnesota more than our sports teams (and I am a great sports fan and appreciate having them here too.) I don't think the average person realizes what it takes to be a professional musician - talent, yes - but years of work since childhood, years of study and dedication! I don't think a Viking would be thrilled to make $50,000 a year. (And don't talk to me about the 'market'.)

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pharclarOct. 31, 12 6:06 PM

lostinstpaul, so you don't know any facts, but you automatically accuse the musicians of greed! OK, some facts: they're not being offered a 10% raise, they're being offered a 33% pay cut! The orchestra is also setting aside millions to buy out anyone over the age of 55, and bring in new musicians at an even lower salary. Tell me what you think of the greedy union, now!

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texas_technomanOct. 31, 12 6:48 PM

If you think the SPCO musicians are greedy, or the Mn Orchestra (the one where they are doing a $50m remodel on the lobby)...go out to their websites and look at the size of the administrative staff...I spent 36 years in business...and admin staff is the first place to cut back, not the folks that are actually providing the service!

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erikj3Oct. 31, 12 8:15 PM

Management is the REAL greedy party here. 10% cut? No, 20%! Wait, 20% isn't enough! Take a 30% cut! They keep demanding the musicians (workers, players, etc) take more and more cuts, while the profit of the owners keeps going up. I applaud these musicians for refusing to give in!

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dflleftOct. 31, 12 9:26 PM

ALWAYS fun to sit back and watch strike talks after the money is pretty much gone. My sympathy for "union musicians" is one notch above zero. lots of people would love to work part time playing a tuba for $50,000 year.

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skeptic1228Oct. 31, 12 9:34 PM

My daughter is a professional cellist (not in the Twin Cities) Before you rail on musicians of this caliber for making more than you think they should, consider these points: 1) Instruments are the responsibility of the musicians. Professional grade violins, violas, cellos, and double bass can easily run upwards of $100K not including bows and strings (which are separate) 2) SPCO and MNOrch musicians aren't off the shelf garden variety players. Almost all have advanced degrees from either conservatories or highly rated universities..and speaking from personal experience, even though my daughter had a great scholarship for her BMA at a conservatory, just her undergraduate degree set us back about $100K. My point is this...we expect excellent talent and instruments to die for, but are talking about paying people who have the equivalent of a master's degree or PhD less than counterparts in other fields. I get that SPCO and Mn Orch need to balance their budgets, but don't think player income levels are excessive. There's much more here than meets the eye.

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