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It's on the ballot for dubious reasons. It's also anachronistic.
Considering that one of the main authors of this amendment has:
A) disavowed it
B) acknowledged it as a thinly veiled ploy to rile up the conservative base
C) pledged to vote "NO" himself
...it should be clear to thinkers in Minnesota that a NO vote is a vote to reject political manipulation and a vote for freedom at the polls, now and in the future.
If the marriage amendment fails, those who supported it might be bummed for a minute, but it won't fundamentally affect their lives. If it passes, though, that's going to make a heckuva lot of difference in the lives of a lot of people. Minnesotans are usually a fair people, so what is this? Why take such a strong stance by voting "yes" on something that doesn't actually affect you? Why be cruel?
okbruce-I guess you are really coming to the core of your faith when you say you will persecute gay couples, defame them, condemn them to hell...all in the name of god and love. It says all there needs to be said. Vote NOx2
Full disclosure, I'm a conservative who will be voting NO on this issue. However, I am disheartened that the media and Liberal Left have chosen to vilify and characterize anyone who has a differing opinion as bigots and haters. I will be voting NO for my own reasons, but I do believe that people can hold a differing opinion on this topic without being hate-filled idiots.
"So kd, even if you win, which is unlikely, what will you do to us who will still teach that there is no such thing as same-sex "marriage" to our kids and our students. When we still call homosexuality "intrinsically disordered" and homosexual acts as mortally-sinful and physically/psychologically destructive? What will you do when we refuse to recognize the fantasy of same-sex "marriage" and refer to same sex couples who "adopt" as child abusers? What will you do?".............I'll feel sorry for you okbruce and hope that someday you will be able to let go of your fear and hatred of gay people. Other than that I will be minding my own business.
kd opines""It is only a matter of time before this conversation within our communities and across our country is one we won’t need to have anymore"".............Hardly. This will be as divisive going forward as Roe v Wade, and any honest person knows limitless abortion has torn the fabric of this once great nation. Gay marriage will never be embraced by most of society because it is a nonstarter on several levels. Gays should get their own word, their own deal, because as has been the case with abortion, much of America wont accept it, even if it is widely legalized. I do laugh at the notion of how the youth "embrace" gays at the same time most of the outright abuse of gays occur in school and youth settings. Ahh, exactly what "younger generations" are the Strib and libs observing?
The words of Martin Luther King still ring out today: "I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.'"
YES I'll vote YES! It is appropriate that CHILDREN have their family with mother and father as parents. I would ask you today...do you had preferred to had two men or two women as a parents? Surely your own answer will be not..!
I am very happy that my dad was a man and my mom a woman…very simple.
"The only "hate" and "intolerance" I have seen in the marriage amendment debate has come from the left. Not one pro marriage amendment person I know discriminates or hates anyone."......Really? You're free to believe whatever you want but when you try to force a group of our citizens to go to the back of the bus when it comes to civil marriage you're discriminating against others no matter what your motives are. When you try to compel others to follow your religious beliefs by codifying these beliefs into law you violate an agreement we all have made to separate church and state. Same-sex marriage will eventually be legal because our government does not have a legitimate reason to deny it. Hence, you see same-sex marriage advocates winning court case after court case. This will continue until same-sex marriage is legal throughout the country and then we can all move on to address real issues.
Force who to the back of the bus? This amendment defines marriage, pure and simple. Its already the law. Discrimination? No far from it. This is separation of church and state. The legislators voted to put this amendment on the ballot, not a church. You might want to look at the history of why the "state" is involved in marriage and why the "state" defined marriage as they did. So far the court cases you mentioned have been easy wins because of activist judges. Once it get serious it won't be that easy. Like you worrying about "religious beliefs" before forced on you (which is not what this is), I don't want immoral and unnatural lifestyles forced on me. "Real issues"? The declination of our society is the real issue.
Bruce- has the church(the institution, man, not God himself) ever been wrong before? Have they(the men) ever abused their position in the community and their power before? And if they did, we're they slow to admit it? Better question: would they have admitted it if the people not asked they do so? You unwillingness to admit you are wrong and aversion to making it right is nothing new from the Catholic church. After this amendment is shot down, we will leave you alone to talk to yourself, and we will move on with our happy and healthy lives in the light. Feel free to join us anytime you like, brother.
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