Souhan: Tubby and Kill power coaches? Deference isn't deserved

  • Article by: JIM SOUHAN , Star Tribune
  • Updated: October 19, 2012 - 9:13 AM

The university allows both to operate as power coaches, even though neither has won enough at Minnesota to justify that deference.

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unions321Oct. 20, 12 8:41 PM

It's amazing how MN football is, and has been for 50 years. As a badger alum and season ticket holder for 20 years, we demand a good team. While your goofers coach wants to play high school teams, we are upset that we play these teams and have to pay for it. Yes, it does have negatives , we had to play Oregon Stats and they turned out to be in the top ten in the country, and we were the first big ten team to go there in 19 plus years . Barry said when he started, that we will top ten teams as much as possible, to not only get theTV exposure, but show are players you are here against the best. I think that logic speaks for itself. Not to mention the badgers have won the axe 16 of 18 years. Keep dumbing down your program so we can win the axe more, and be in mean New Year's Day bowls like we have for over 15 years.

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muzzymikeOct. 20, 12 4:32 PM

> > > > The Vikings lost numerous Super Bowls. Bud Grant is a super hero. > > The only recent world champions are the Twins and the Lynx. > > The swGopher football team has not won a Big Ten championship since 1967. > > University of Kentucky hires a coach that has had two Universities forfeit > all of their basketball games. He is a hero. Winning is everything. He had > a player at Memphis that did not take the college entrance exam! > > Ohio State had a football player that could not read but he won a national > title for the school. He did prison time. > > Penn State football is on television almost every week. How can that be? > > Don't even talk about lackluster hockey in the state of Minnesota. > > It is time for you to move on. Thank goodness we still have Sid Hartman > writing for the paper. > > You know that the recruitment of top flight basketball or football players > is difficult for the University. > > The players that have played or are playing in the NBA or NFL from > Minnesota were not the top high school players in the nation. > > Get real, > Beachbum

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jaynedrakeOct. 19, 1211:18 PM

I invite everyone to read about the Kansas State football coach's success. Fantastic success. And then read his comments about Minnesota and football from two years ago. He is a big winner and he said that the handicaps at Kansas State are so big compared to building a great program at Minnesota. And as for Glen Mason, the only thing I fault him for is that he would not build a decent defense. His recruiting was mainly for offensive players. I still wonder why.

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victorybuckyOct. 19, 12 9:01 PM

This is one of the best sports columns I've ever read (it should be required reading for all college presidents and AD's). I'm a Badger but if I was from Minnesota I would be ashamed of coach Kill's killing of the contract with UNC and having to pay that school $800,000 to do so. Hasn't he, and his nominal AD (do AD's actually do anything?) heard there's an economic crisis out there and it has especially has hit state universities? Where's the university president in all of this? The reporter has asked the right question: where's the oversight? The trouble with college sports in general is that coaches have wrested control of their sport and the sports domain away from the university presidents who now do not even nominally control their sports programs. PSU is but one example. This is another. Kill should have the $800,000 taken out of his salary.

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glenlivetOct. 19, 12 4:58 PM

Here is the problem: Kill has not had a decent recruiting class, and according to Rivals.com, Minnesota has only 6 commitments, whereas Wisconsin, Iowa, Northwestern, and even Illinois, have it about 3x that many signed--they are looking at the WORST rated recruiting class in history. Kill is a tough coach--tough on recruiting. I think I read the slug-line to one of Sid's columns--"Kill building a fence around Minnesota" to keep players out? He may be a courageous guy with regard to his health problems, but I think most HS recruits would rather respect the guy, and the guys that play for him, than play for him themselves.

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BCanniffOct. 19, 12 4:32 PM

While this is a disaster for ticket sales, fundraising and recruiting and waste of $800,000 needed for Tubby's practice facility, The real cost is the lost pride of the fans and athletes in the football program. The President and regents should move to reprimand Kill and dismiss Teague to prevent permanent damage to the school's reputation. If they do not then they are even bigger cowards.

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mominfanOct. 19, 12 4:31 PM

Souhan knows how to stir emotions. Verrry good move! We have a proven football coach, whose players actually believe in him, in the middle of a very stressful attempt to bring success to the program and the Trib's man piles on with the critics. That'll help.

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wisstinks4Oct. 19, 12 3:12 PM

These two nice chaps are not power coaches. They are nice guys on the U staff that coach the top two sports on campus. Power coach criteria: 1. is one who recruits top talent. 2. wins games and goes .500 or better every year. 3. goes to the dance or bowl games. 4. has a few guys drafted. Until we see these items of evidence, they still have a ways to go before they have arrived. Nice try, not quite yet.

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notsidOct. 19, 12 1:56 PM

Souhan's observation regarding deference paid to Smith and Kill was proven accurate by Kill's decision to drop UNC from the schedule in 2013 and 2014. With almost 100% of the diehard Gophers saying that it was a bad and embarrassing decision, it would appear that Kill is so protected from reality that he must have had no clue that fans would react to his decision with overwhelming derision and disappointment. No clue at all!

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gogophsmanOct. 19, 12 1:48 PM

dictionary definition of loser......Minnesota Gopher football program.......$800,000 to cancel the Tar Heels???? Name the loser in that transaction.......answer: long suffering Gopher football fans.

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