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Rev. Chilstrom, thank you for your reasonable commentary. I frankly doubt that Archbishop Nienstedt believes that you stand on level ground with him. Nevertheless, he has hardened his heart to the faith of his flock and the work of the Spirit amongst us. Thank you for recalling the compassion and intelligence of Bishop Raymond Lucker. I was blessed to grow up in his diocese and receive the Sacrament of Confirmation from him. He was clearly well ahead of his time.
"But for you and others to campaign for an amendment that imposes your stance on all citizens in Minnesota, including other Christians, believers of other faith groups and nonbelievers, is overstepping your bounds."
Thank you so much for trying, Reverand Chilstrom, but this point especially is lost on Archbishop Nienstedt. He wants to turn our country into a Catholic theocracy and doesn't understand why so many people have a problem with that.
Organized religion, the "word of God", the people who will assure you they know exactly what "god" wants you to do.....a pox on all of them. They do way more harm than good, always. Why can't people come out of their self induced comas and face the truth? If there was a god, logic tells us it would have to be either an evil god, or a powerless god. If you really need to be scared into leading an honorable life by belief in some angry god who will punish you with everlasting hell fire if you fail to do everything just the way it says you should....you are a pathetic excuse for an adult human being.
My big question is why Archbishop Nienstedt - who due to church rules can't even get married - is spending other peoples money telling his flock who should be allowed to be married. Somehow this guy who cant even get married because of his own choice is going to try and have his choice forced on others? What happened to the United States Constitution? I guess being an Archbishop means you get to throw others people rights into the trash.
From the open letter: "Why then have you worked so hard and spent so much of your church's resources to bring this issue to a vote in Minnesota?" Good question, Mr. Chilstrom. Jesus provided the lesson and the example by which shepherds are to tend their flocks: Feed the hungry; give drink to the thirsty; shelter the homeless; care for the sick; visit those in prison; bury the dead.
The Archbishop will brook "no open dissension" on this matter and equates "eternal salvation" with obedience to his dictates rather than with hearing the Word of God and following the example of Jesus. Moreover, his support of the Anti-Marriage Equality Amendment, which he describes as "a positive affirmation, not intended to be hurtful or discriminatory to anyone" does nothing to protect “the institution of marriage and family life [which he sees] unraveling before our very eyes due to no-fault divorce, widespread cohabitation and promiscuous sexual activity.”
Herb, vote NO-->that is your right. Yet, any constitution, and indeed, any law imposes the will of its writers upon the governed. That's how it works.
Nienstedt only wants to try save what is left of our rapidly crumbling society. I want to turn left at redlights after stop/look, and drive with a .09 level, but I cant. Somebody else has imposed their will upon my rights. That's why we have elections. Good luck.
Many who have never belonged to the Catholic Church probably don't understand how the church stresses, pushes and encourages prosyltizing. They teach that the Catholic faith is the "one, true faith" and that the duty of all Catholics is to make converts to the faith. If the only way they can swell the ranks of practicing Catholics is to pass laws mandating Catholic beliefs be observed by everyone, they feel perfectly justified in doing so, Democracy or no Democracy.
Gimbel I deeply resent your take that those of us who believe in God are pathetic excuses for human beings. We are entitled to our faith every bit as much as you're entitled to profess no faith at all. Not all people of faith like this silly, mean spirited amendment. People like me. I suggest you open your mind to people who believe differently than you. Your mean comment puts you right on par with the mean people who put forth this worthless amendment.
Archbishop Nienstedt is entitled to teach his flock the precepts of his church. He is not entitled to impose the dogma he teaches on the general population. Nor should he be permitted to characterize his actions as "a positive affirmation" rather than "discrimination" or to claim that no one should be hurt by his actions because they are "not intended to be hurtful to anyone." If communities were wallpapered with lawn signs saying "Tax the Catholic church for spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on a political campaign," would the Archbishop see that as a "positive affirmation of the separation between church and state" or as "hurtful" and "discriminatory"?
It would be nice to see the Archbishop respond to Rev. Chilstrom's commentary in an open forum like this. The Catholic Church seems to think it is immune to public scrutiny when it comes to issues like this.
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