Romney on a roll? Remember John Kerry beat George W. Bush

  • Article by: James Rainey , Los Angeles Times
  • Updated: October 4, 2012 - 10:54 AM

Sure, Romney sounded better than Obama in Wednesday's debate. So what.

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pistols12Oct. 4, 1212:20 PM

"So what?" Well, perhaps. Trouble is, the economy was in good shape in 2004, and right or wrong, Bush was seen as strong on foreign policy. So Kerry may have out-debated Bush, but could not strike at any weak points. Here, the economy is very weak, and Mr. Romney was able to unrelentingly pound Pres. Obama on that. And the President could not muster a defense. Thus last nights debate could be a gamer changer for Mr. Romney, however Mr. Rainey may attempt to deny it.

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owatonnabillOct. 4, 1212:29 PM

There was a fascinating interview this morning of Artur Davis, former Democrat Representative in Congress from Alabama and one of Obama's co-chairs in his 2008 run for the Presidency. He was frank about the fact that he was a strong supporter of Obama but has since been completely disallusioned. He also referred to some other facts, which are seldom heard, about the number of Democrats (he put the number at seven million plus or minus) who are disillusioned as well and will most likely either sit the election out or vote for Romney. There've been other Obama supporters who have had changes of heart but rarely are they black. I found his analysis fascinating and if repeated plan on DVR-ing it so I can explore his points in more detail. The point is that if articles like this, minimizing the Obama performance last night, and others blaming Jim Lehrer, or the fact that Romney had more time to prepare, become the Democrats' official talking-point reactions to last night, then the very thinness of the excuses (even those giving them seem nervous and incincere) bespeaks extreme anxiety and possibly even panic. Interviews like the one of Mr. Davis I think drives the point home harder. Many have been saying all along that Obama is not a competent President. Last night that fact was on display for the world to see. Democrats are right to be concerned.

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garykhansonOct. 4, 12 2:31 PM

Romney promises jobs. Are these $9 or $10 hour jobs which are the only ones that can be gotten when you cut education? And with such jobs how do you go out in the market place and buy medical insurance from complanies which like to make money? I think I'll go with Obama because then Obamacare will cover the medical part while I work at Home Depot or MacDonalds.

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ivehaditOct. 4, 12 3:25 PM

pistols12: "right or wrong, Bush was seen as strong on foreign policy." Right or wrong, Obama is seen as formidable on foreign policy. And the economy is in much better shape than it was four years ago when we were on the brink of another Republican Depression. Obama was not on the top of his game last night. Mitt still has no details on how he will balance the budget, cut taxes, put billions more in defense and keep essential programs in place. The reality is, Willard lies to get votes. He is out of touch with Americans and thinks that lying will get him votes. Sad for him!

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gandalf48Oct. 4, 12 3:46 PM

garykhanson - [Romney promises jobs. Are these $9 or $10 hour jobs which are the only ones that can be gotten when you cut education? And with such jobs how do you go out in the market place and buy medical insurance from complanies which like to make money? I think I'll go with Obama because then Obamacare will cover the medical part while I work at Home Depot or MacDonalds.] *** I don't think Obama even mentioned how he was going to get more jobs in the US, he had no plan about any issue going forward. It was almost as if the entire debate they spent talking about Romney's plans while Obama attempted to defend his record; meanwhile the president did not bother to offer the American people anything new or a path forward to accomplish his goals. If Obama wants to win over the American people he really needs to inspire us with a new plan and new legislation to get things done in Washington...with the current unemployment rate above 8% 4 years later he can no longer continue to blame Bush.

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owatonnabillOct. 4, 12 3:54 PM

"Right or wrong, Obama is seen as formidable on foreign policy. And the economy is in much better shape than it was four years ago when we were on the brink of another Republican Depression." ..................... "I will believe that the white that I see is black if the hierarchical Church so defines it." (Saint Ignatius Loyola)

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gandalf48Oct. 4, 12 4:01 PM

ivehadit - [Mitt still has no details on how he will balance the budget, cut taxes, put billions more in defense and keep essential programs in place. The reality is, Willard lies to get votes. He is out of touch with Americans and thinks that lying will get him votes. Sad for him!] *** You can't on one hand accuse Romney of lies and on the other accusing him of not revealing details. He had very good logical reasons for not revealing specific details about deductions/credits he would eliminate...it's because he has to work with congress to get those things done; revealing specifics now means he either lied about the specifics while running or he alienates a large portion of congress who would never agree to his plan and nothing would get done. The best example of that is when Obama stated many times in the debates with Hilary Clinton that he was against the individual mandate, yet when it came down to it he signed a bill into law that included the individual mandate.

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kingtutskyOct. 4, 12 6:52 PM

In 2004, Bush's America was beginning a 4-1/2 year, off-the-charts 3-4% economic growth pattern. Even though GWBush spent too much on social programs he knew business. Then the Democrat-loaded housing bubble overheated because of Clinton's "community reinvestment act" where banks were forced to give poor people mortgages they could not repay. Then the crash.

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gimbelOct. 4, 12 9:34 PM

John Sununu was all over the TV today, calling President Obama "lazy" and "stupid". Talk about your racist dogwhistles. On Andrea Mitchell, right out of the gate, his very first words were to attack Obama - NOT to praise what a wonderful job Romney had done in the debate, but to rant about how absolutely rotten Obama is. That, right there, says everything. They are scared spitless of Obama and the best thing they can think of to do, in spite of Romneys' great brilliance and deftness in the debate, is to play the race card against the president of the U.S.

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my4centsOct. 4, 1210:08 PM

gimbel - John Sununu and other Republicans are not being racist when they point out deficiencies in the President - who happens to be black. If that is the best you can come up with to denigrate your opponents then they have nothing to fear. Nobody on the Republican side is scared of Obama - although we are very scared about what his policies have done and will do to further weaken this economy and this country. Romney's message is resonating with people because it makes so much more sense than what we see or hear from Obama and company.

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