Presidential debate fact check

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  • Updated: October 4, 2012 - 6:22 AM

FACT CHECK SOME ECONOMIC CLAIMS DON'T ADD UP

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endothermOct. 3, 1211:27 PM

Romney plans to eliminate the estate tax (which only applies to very wealthy estates--anything under 5 million is currently exempted), cut tax rates for the rich and supposedly pay for it by eliminating deductions that benefit the middle class--deductions for education, childcare and health insurance costs. This means that Romney will cut taxes on the rich and RAISE taxes on the middle class. He will never come out and say this, but it is really the only possible outcome of the policies he has proposed.

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jsmart05Oct. 4, 12 7:14 AM

$5 trillion tax cut over ten years and we are just suppose to trust that he is not 'paying' for that with reduction of deductions and credits for the lower and middle class? Pshaw. Obama failed to make him give at least ONE example of a deduction he is at least THINKING about eliminating. Lehrer failed to do the same.

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PADICALSOct. 4, 12 7:25 AM

Wow , Eliminate Estate Tax, Eliminate or reduce Tax Credits. As a Single man with no children and heir to Millions I like this Romney. But saying and doing are to different things.

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carl12345Oct. 4, 12 7:38 AM

Neither Presidential Candidate is specific enough. President Obama may speak well, but his policies are not developing a prosperous middle class. ME Romney does not know the middle class, as for him his "house is aglow" (author unknown), his policy unknown and his connection to the middle class, lower class or anyone but the wealthy is non-existent. How can either man represent us well. Please give us another candidate - both parties!!!

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stolaf80Oct. 4, 12 8:21 AM

The estate tax has destroyed many farms in Minnesota that would have otherwise stayed in the family. Taxing someone simply because they've died and no longer have a vote is despicable envy.

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badgerfan2Oct. 4, 12 8:23 AM

This is an extremely weak and poor job of fact checking...of course they are attempting to appear neutral by devoting about the same amount of space to both sides. But let's take a short look at some of the many factual errors made by Romney, deliberately. He claimed that he wasn't going to cut taxes for the wealthy - LIE. He said pre-existing conditions are covered in his health care plan - LIE. He claimed Obamacare has a board that decides the care people get - LIE. He denied any knowledge of a 5 trillion tax cut, but the math with the rates he has cited says that is what it is. He claims gas prices doubled under this president, which is misleading as they were over $4 in the summer of 2008. The number of unemployed he cited was inaccurate. He claimed insurance from the private sector is more efficient than traditional Medicare, yet every credible study says otherwise. He claimed there was no bipartisan support of Obamacare, yet it is a Republican idea - championed by Mitt Romney himself, and created by the Heritage Foundation. This is a partial list and doesn't even include the inconsistencies between what he said last night vs what he has been saying for the last five years. The biggest lie of all is any claim that he cares about the middle class. He is beholden to the super rich, that is an undeniable fact.

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notaxmaxOct. 4, 12 8:24 AM

I wonder which debate the author watched. Romney cited facts while Obama used the talking points he had been drilled on. When Obama couldn't think logically he resorted to talking points which were "inaccurate" as Romney called them. That was a sophisticated way of calling the president a liar. Romney came out with real concern for the people, Obama stumbled through the night with a time using filabuster which the moderator didn't control. Check the Strib poll, 60% to 28% that Romney won this meeting of ideas, who could have guessed that Romneys ideas would be received in such a decisive manner by the public.

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arronbOct. 4, 12 8:24 AM

The lesser of two evils. That is what we have to pick from in this election. Just like when it was Bush v. Kerry.

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patasticOct. 4, 12 8:55 AM

Why is it that our collective morals allow the government (of the people, by the people, for the people) to do things we would never do ourselves? Would you go to the widow, children or grandchildren of a deceased man and demand 35% of his estate?

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greatgumbyOct. 4, 12 9:37 AM

Bush tax cuts need to be extended. Do people realize the importance of this? Average family will pay several thousand more next year if it is not extended. This should be debated. It affects everyone!!!

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