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clafaveOct. 3, 12 9:32 PM

The tragedy for these people happened long before fracking.

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antisuburbsOct. 3, 1210:13 PM

so they are taking them on a tour to see all the land they are ruining by frac sand mining?

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carbonbigfutOct. 3, 1210:33 PM

A couple of quick stops from 35 mph will get the protesters off the bus roof.

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tmauelOct. 3, 1211:13 PM

A rail spur near Knapp, Wisconsin that was proposed to haul sand from a mine next to a high school in Glenwood City was recently halted. A processing facility in Eau Claire was voted down and mines and loading facilities in Frontenac and Stockholm were defeated. Time to hit the bricks big oil. A majority of Wisconsin residents don't want the clear cuts and bluff removal and total land destruction of these frac sand plants. There are cleaner and cheaper alternatives for producing energy.

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huntthewestOct. 4, 12 1:39 AM

tmauel...."There are cleaner and cheaper alternatives for producing energy." . What are those cleaner and cheaper alternatives? Oil, coal and natural gas are the cheapest energy resources available today and the US has a lot of them. Yet the lib's and President are tripping over themselves to prevent us from mining our own resources. Makes no sense. Look at the economy of North Dakota. That progress could spread across the US if they lib's would get out of the way. Those resources would keep energy costs down until the other alternatives become more affordable to produce or could be produced without subsidies.

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heckyousayOct. 4, 12 5:58 AM

re: hunt said: "Look at the economy of North Dakota. That progress could spread across the US if they lib's would get out of the way. Those resources would keep energy costs down until the other alternatives become more affordable to produce or could be produced without subsidies." --- Yes, look at North Dakota. A boom economy, for a sparsely populated state, and the "progress" virtually all based on the extraction of energy. Where will the economy be when those resources are depleted? I don't see this progress spreading across the US, not without the massive energy resources to tap! And how do you expect alternative energy sources to become more affordable, if we don't invest in them and grow them? No easy answers to this question, but alternatives are going to lag until we dedicate the resources to developing them that they deserve as our energy future.

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dixiecorpOct. 4, 12 6:52 AM

the economy in north dakota when they leave will be like east texas in the 80,s bone dry. some times the lib,s can see the big picture

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rebelskichickOct. 4, 12 8:20 AM

maybe if they went to the conference or on the field trip vs. sat on the roof of the bus they would walk away having learned something...and minus and arrest record

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beebee82Oct. 4, 12 8:29 AM

"Look at the economy of North Dakota. That progress could spread across the US if they lib's would get out of the way."

I love how often ND is cited for being a beacon of economic activity and how we could all enjoy the benefits of such booms if government/environmentalists just got out of the way. It's usually touted by those who haven't even been to our neighbor state during the past five years to see the seas of little white boxes where workers live.

They haven't witnessed the sand, dirt and trucks destroy the infrastructure and rustic beauty of the small towns abutting the oil fields. They haven't grown up there all their lives only to find that their children can't afford to move out to attend college because rent is now $3,000 a month for even your most modest studio apartments.

They haven't dealt with the drunkenness and crime from these transient workers, because most responsible people with families don't choose to live in "man camps" and work hundreds of miles away from their wives and children. And those who do are forced with the choice of sending their kids to any number of the overcrowded classrooms and crumbling school buildings due to decades of low taxes and a new influx of demand.

North Dakota is a perfect example of profits before people, industry before planning and leaping before we look.

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tmauelOct. 4, 12 8:49 AM

Fracking for natural gas costs about $4 per thousand cubic feet. With the current price of natural gas below $3 per thousand the gas is flared off to get at the oil. Destroying local water supplies, (see the movie Gasland), to get more greenhouse oil is a bad tradeoff. The biggest hit to Exxon-Mobil earnings last year was their ill timed acquisition of frac operator XTO Energy. Exxon took a huge write off because they got sucked into the fracking ponzi scheme.

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