Protecting the right to vote

  • Article by: J. Morgan Kousser , Los Angeles Times
  • Updated: October 1, 2012 - 12:02 PM

The experience of a century ago may offer a cautionary lesson about today's changes in election laws.

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hobie2Oct. 1, 1212:28 PM

So what if some people don't get to vote. They don't count for much anyway and they vote for the wrong people... wait.. what do you mean I don't get to vote? WHAT?. YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!.. Oh yes they can... Yup-- If you help them take the vote of the least among you, some day they will come for yours... That is they way it works - stand now and make sure the least can vote freely, or lose yours when they decide you are not worthy.

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jpcooperOct. 1, 12 1:01 PM

hobie2 "stand now and make sure the least can vote freely"

Should we eliminate the age requirement of 18? How about the requirement to be a US citizen? How about the requirement to vote in the precinct that you live in? All those requirements disenfranchise someone. Photo ID is a tool to help validate those requirements. Does it fix all, no.... But not checking ID's provides no security/validation when it comes to voter registration and voting

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EleanoreOct. 1, 12 1:12 PM

No one is for the ID amendment is talking about taking the vote away from anyone other than those who aren't eligible in the first place. It's the anti crowd that seem to be trying to take away the value of a lawful vote by ensuring this minimum level of identification on the votes that are cast isn't there. Go figure.

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guessagainOct. 1, 12 1:22 PM

jpcooper: "Should we eliminate the age requirement of 18? How about the requirement to be a US citizen? How about the requirement to vote in the precinct that you live in? All those requirements disenfranchise someone. Photo ID is a tool to help validate those requirements." What a silly comment. An age requirement makes sense. It moved from 21 to 18 when I was 18 and draft-bait. Nobody has suggested that non-citizens should have the vote. Photo ID has nothing to do with either. Seventeen-year-olds aren't voting; neither are illegal aliens. My son-in-law was an illegal alien for 5 years until he got his "green card" (which is not Green, BTW) last year. He knows many eastern European illegals who would rather "self-deport" than vote illegally and be thrown in jail before losing everything they came her for. Voter ID only keeps students, the poor, ill or elderly LEGAL voters from voting. They can't get birth certificates, can't get transportation to government centers, or can only vote with help from friends and family. Why do you want to stop them from voting? Because they might keep your party from stealing an election. Congratulations for that...Democracy suffers for your efforts!

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firefight41Oct. 1, 12 2:17 PM

If you help them take the vote of the least among you, some day they will come for yours... That is they way it works - stand now and make sure the least can vote freely, or lose yours when they decide you are not worthy. ****** How is requiring an ID taking away someones right to vote?

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goferfanzOct. 1, 12 2:38 PM

Hmmm, 100 years ago there probably weren't 12 million illegals living among the populace. I am thinking voters back then were registered well ahead of time as well. The trouble today is letting in people both without preregistering, and without valid ID. That is making a mockery of our election system, well demonstrated when 30,000 signatures were disqualified on the WI recall petitions. I am ALL for no ID, as long as people are registered well ahead of time. But, it is clear which party wants illegal voting to occur......

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EleanoreOct. 1, 12 2:38 PM

"How is requiring an ID taking away someones right to vote?" - I'd suggest not requiring ensures that a lawful voters vote could be negated by any unlawful vote that could have been stopped by requiring an ID. The true disenfranchisers here are those fighting for slop and insecurity in our system.

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goldengoph3rOct. 1, 12 3:29 PM

Eleanore, can you cite any examples of the "slop and insecurity" in our election system that would be prevented by producing a picture ID?

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guessagainOct. 1, 12 5:38 PM

goferfanz: "But, it is clear which party wants illegal voting to occur..." You're right! The Florida GOP for starters.

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jpcooperOct. 1, 12 6:31 PM

guessagain " You're right! The Florida GOP for starters."............ How come you did not mention the Democratic Voter Fraud in New York? I know its an annual affair!

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